为什么中国的三国时期这么重要?为什么比其他内战时期受到更多关注?
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Why is the Three Kingdoms period in China so important and elaborated on? Why does it get more attention than other periods of civil war?

为什么中国的三国时期这么重要?为什么比其他内战时期受到更多关注?

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Feng Xian, former Research Associate atEurasian Center (2017-2018)
Answered Dec 28
1; it was early but not that early. If youread the history about the warring state or spring- autumn period, you wouldhave no idea of most of generals and politicians and battles because theexisting records lack of details. But the three kingdoms one provided a very indetail descxtion of most of influential characters and events.

1、它属于早期,但不是那么早。如果你阅读战国或者春秋时期的历史,你都对大部分的政治家和将军以及战役不了解,因为现存的记录不是很详细。但是对三国时期的历史记录就很详细了,尤其是那些最重要的人物和事件。

2: In Northern-Southern Dynasties period,betrayal happened frequently. In Sui-Tang dynasties, brothers murdered eachother. In Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period, all historical figures hadshort life spans, betrayed and were betrayed, did crazy things like fuckedtheir sons' women, ate human meat, or hundred thousands of men and women wereforced to go on the front to shield the army behind which was attacking thecity the their relatives defended, or the hero after victory suddenly dressedlike a woman to dance everyday and etc, which would be a very good source forgame of throne however.

2、在南北朝时期,背叛经常发生。在隋唐,兄弟互相杀害。在五代十国时期,所有历史人物都很短命,背叛或者被背叛,做出疯狂的举动,比如奸淫自己儿子的老婆,吃人肉,数万男男女女走上前线掩护军队,而躲在后面的军队攻击的对象是这些男女的亲戚们所守卫的城镇,或者英雄在取得胜利后突然打扮成女性每日跳舞等等的怪事情。这是权力游戏的极好素材。

In the Three Kingdoms period however, youhave some figures with long life spans who developed from low to high and hadsome basic moral codes, like how Liu Bei trusted Zhuge Liang, how defeatedgenerals were respected, and how Cao, Liu, Sun set up their dynasties after somany experiences they had. This made writing and recreation based on maincharacters possible.

然而在三国时期,一些人物的寿命很长,他们从下往上爬,形成了一些基本的道德规范,比如刘备信任诸葛亮,失败的将军得到信任,以及曹操,刘备和孙权在经历了那么多后如何建立起自己的朝代。这使得根据主要人物进行写作和娱乐变得可能。

3: the names in the Three Kingdoms wereeasy to be remembered. Due to the name reform earlier, most of characters inthree kingdoms had no more than two characters: one character for family nameanother for last name. There are only few exceptions like Zhuge that had twocharacters for the family name. This made the names easy to be remembered.

3、三国的人名很好记。由于更早之前的名字改革,三国里的大部分人名不超过两个字,姓一个字,名一个字。只有一些例外,比如诸葛,姓是两个字。所以名字很好记。

But if you look at the Notthern-Southerndynasties period, it had a lot of barbarians involved so the names were likefour characters. In the late Tang Dynasty and five generations and ten kingdomperiods, the Han also had at least three characters in their names(one forfamily name and two for last name). This made it difficult to even remember thenames and thus public lacks of interest to know more about them.

但是你看看南北朝时期,有很多蛮人加入,所以名字有四个字。在晚唐和五代十国时期,汉人的名字里至少有三个字(姓一个字,名两个字)。所以名字不好记,因此公众就没有了想要进一步了解他们的兴趣了。
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4: political and cultural reasons alsoplayed a big part here. The Shu faction was considered the good one here by theEastern Jin dynasty, though the Jin dunasty was developed from the Wei Dynasty,later on because its action of Northern campaign represented the obxtive forunification. This attitude was inherited by many dynasties later on.

4、政治和文化原因也扮演了重要作用。东晋认为蜀国是好的,虽然晋朝是从魏朝发展而来的,后来因为其北伐运动代表了统一的目标。这种态度被后来的很多朝代继承。

Culturally, the chaos in the Three Kingdomscreated a lot of heroes. In China, the hero worship is a big part in culture.Many of these generals and strategists had their own temples and stories in thelocal by the people. Eventually this worship led to the national level and thestate level in which the heros were officially recognized by the state as Gods.Guan yu is apparently the most popular one as the Qing Dynasty nominated him asthe Supreme God in Heaven.

文化上,三国的混乱产生了很多英雄。在中国,英雄崇拜是文化的重要部分。其中的很多将军和战略家都有自己的庙宇和故事,当地人建的,被当地人传诵。这种崇拜甚至上升到国家级别,被国家正式承认为神明。其中关羽是最著名的,清朝推他为至高之神。

Bartholomew Tran
Jan 2
Guan Yu is definitely most popular. I gointo the market and I see his statues up high in the shelves

关羽确实是最受欢迎的。我去市场看到他的雕塑高高的立在货架上。

Luna Chen, Nativie Chinese, know history ofThree Kingdoms very well
Answered Feb 27, 2018

The historical length of Three Kindomsperiod is suitable. Every small paragraph has a protagonist, the climax oneafter another. If time is too long, too many characters, people can notremember,like Spring and Autumn and Warring States Period(春秋战国时期). Iftime is too short, too few characters, people feel uninteresting, like Chu–HanContention(楚汉之争). So many wonderful stories have been adapted into dramas, wellknown by ordinary people. This has laid the foundation for the later adaptationof the novel.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms was one ofFour Great Classic Novels in China. The portrayal of the characters in thenovel is particularly successful, and it is easy to remember.
Because ordinary people are familiar withthe stories during Three Kingdoms period, the influence is very profound.

三国时期的历史长度是合适的。每一小段都有一个主角,高潮迭起。如果时间长度太长,人物太多,人们无法记住,比如春秋战国时期。如果历史长度太短,人物太少,人们又觉得没意思,比如楚汉之争。有很多很棒的故事被改编成戏剧,为普通人所熟知。这为后来的小说改编奠定了基础。三国演义是中国的四大经典名著之一。里面的人物描绘尤其成功,而且很容易记忆。
因为普通人很熟悉三国时期的故事,所以影响非常深远。

Xane Feng, I am Chinese
Answered Dec 28
There are four Great Classical Novels inChinese literature:
Journey to the West
Water Margin
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Dream of the Red Chamber
Literally everyone in China knows aboutthose four novels.
Most people do not know the real history ofthe Three Kingdoms, they just know the stories from the Romance. They think ZhuGeliang was some kind of military genius, or that Zhang Fei routed a millionsoldiers with a single roar.
An interesting fact: the Manchus of Qingused a strategy from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms to make the Ming Emperorkill his own best general. What’s more, that strategy came from a completelyfictional story from the novel!
A made-up story determined 300 years ofChinese history!

中国文学里有四本经典小说:
西游记,水浒传,三国演义,红楼梦。基本上每个中国人都知道这四部小说的存在。但是大部分人不知道三国的真实历史,他们只知道三国演义里的故事。他们认为诸葛亮是某个军事天才,或者认为张飞一人可以单挑百万大军。
一个有趣的事实是:满人用三国演义里的一个策略让明朝皇帝杀死了自己最好的将军。此外,这个策略来自于这本小说里面的一个完全虚构的故事!
一个虚构的故事就决定了300年的中国历史!

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