2010年版三国演义电视剧15-17集评论
2022-02-25 凌☆♂宇 12499
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(译者加:基于2010年版三国电视剧。下附每集介绍,复制于百度百科。)
第15集
  刘备久久得不到吕布的回音,只得引兵登城,准备与纪灵决一死战。突然得知吕布在五里坡设宴邀请刘备,刘备领关张一同前往。在酒席上,刘备惊讶地发现吕布也邀请了纪灵前来。吕布与刘备纪灵二人约定,若是射中辕门下方天画戟的小枝,则二人握手言和。吕布果然一箭射中,纪灵慑于吕布的淫威,只得引兵退却。此事后,袁术有了把吕布纳入帐中的想法。孙策将庐江太守的首级献于袁术,令袁术赞叹孙策的神勇,孙策交出兵符后,婉谢而出。山冈之上,祭拜父亲的孙策遇到了结拜兄弟周瑜,二人相拥而泣,共起大业。次日,孙策献上传国玉玺给袁术,以借兵马渡江省亲为名要回了父亲当年的旧将。袁术得到传国玉玺之后,在谄臣的怂恿之下,宣布开国称帝。袁绍大怒,听取谋士建议,准备趁诸侯妒恨之际讨伐公孙瓒,以期扩大实力,渐成霸业。而曹操恰恰相反,得到袁术开国称帝的消息后,不怒反喜。


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Also Yuan Shu bellow on over the Imperial Seal while his advisor desperately tries to talk him into not doing anything stupid was hilarious. Clever advisors trying and failing to talk their masters out of doing stupid shit seems to be a common trend in this time period.

另外,袁术在他的谋士拼命劝他不要做傻事的时候,他还在对着国玺大吼大叫,真是太搞笑了。聪明的谋士试图说服他们的主人不要做愚蠢的事情,但没有成功,这似乎是这个时期的一个普遍趋势。

Even when Sun Ce was submitting to Ruan Shu, his subordinates like Huang Gai still remain loyal to Sun Ce. That just shows the Sun Family really won the hearts and minds of their followers! That’s why in Chinese the saying goes: whoever has the hearts of the people has the control of the whole realm.

即使在孙策臣服袁术的时候,像黄盖这样的部下仍然对孙策忠心耿耿。这说明孙氏家族真的赢得了追随者的心!这就是为什么在中国有句谚语:得民心者得天下。

Sun Ce and Zhou Yu are awesome. It sad that those two died before the prime of their lives.

孙策和周瑜都很棒。但这两个人还没到壮年就去世了,真令人伤心。

Lmao Gong Cheng treats Lu Pu like a misbehaving son.

吕布在陈宫的眼里就像一个行为不端的儿子。

I don't understand how he can just become emperor when the rightful emperor is alive, and y does he act so clueless

我不明白当合法的皇帝还活着的时候,袁术怎么能成为皇帝,而且他的行为还如此愚蠢。

May 5th is Idiot day

5月5日是白痴日

I’ve never understood how these great generals can’t grasp basic strategy, especially when there’s someone there telling it right to their face.

我一直不明白这些伟大的诸侯们为什么不能掌握基本的战略,尤其是还有人当面跟他们说的时候。

Liu Bei “I’d rather the world betray me than disappoint the world.” He’s a naturally good hearted person yet conservative in his thinking. He simply wants to restore Han without really acknowledging the corruption that led to its ruin. The traditionalist that he is would never have been able to achieve his goals.

刘备:“我宁愿让世界背叛我,也不愿让世界失望。”他天生心地善良,但思想保守。他只是想恢复汉朝,而没有真正承认导致汉朝灭亡的是腐败。他这样的传统主义者是永远无法实现他的目标的。

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第16集
  原来,曹操自从“挟天子以令诸侯”以来,属地渐广,实力大增。他早就在窥测天下,寻找最适合的吞并对象。袁术的篡国称帝无疑给曹操提供了兼并他的绝佳理由。曹操亲率大军十七万攻打袁术,在进军的路上,曹操采纳了荀彧的建议,对袁术的盟友吕布进行分化瓦解。在徐州,陈宫识破了袁术的计谋。断然拒绝了袁术提出的和亲主张,认为风险太大。吕布欣然接受了曹操假借天子之名的敕封,正式成为了徐州牧。他派刘备出兵助曹兵攻打寿春。曹操设计使军心大振,一鼓作气拿下了寿春。“仲式皇帝”袁术弃城亡命。刘备向曹操拜辞,并婉拒了曹操的邀请。曹操告诉刘备,吕布已经有了“一山不容二虎”之心容不下他,如有难,可随时投奔过来。
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been watching since I brought total war three kingdoms, loving it so far

自全战三国把我带到这里,我就一直在看,到目前为止我很喜欢这一系列。
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Cao Cao ought to wear his hair down all the time. He looked awesome with long flowing hair!

曹操应该一直把头发披散。他那飘逸的长发,看上去棒极了!

Anyone else wonder how the f they tell who's troops are which when they wear the exact same armor

有没有人知道为什么,当他们穿着完全一样的盔甲时,他们是如何分辨谁是谁的部队的。

Being the emperor must be sucks. I mean everybody swore allegiance to you but none of them really loyal and wants to serve you (except Liu Bei maybe). All you do is give everything what the strongest lord want lol

当皇帝一定很糟糕。我的意思是,每个人都宣誓效忠你,但没有一个人真正忠诚,愿意想为你服务(也许除了刘备)。你要做的就是满足最强大的诸侯所希望的那样。
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Cao Cao can be counted among the most cunning & wise leaders I've ever read about or known. It is men like Cao Cao that save millions by sacrificing a few, in order to unite men & nations!

曹操是我读过的或认识的最狡猾、最聪明的领导人之一。正是像曹操这样的人,可以为了团结人类和民族,牺牲了一小部分人,拯救了数百万人!

The emperor Xian become a handsome guy from a little boy ! WOW!

献帝从一个小男孩变成了一个英俊的小伙子了!哇!

I love how out of all of Cao Cao's current rivals its the ones he thinks least of right now (Liu Bei & Sun Ce) that are going to become his greatest rivals in the future.

我喜欢这个情节,在曹操现在所有的对手中,他现在最不看好的(刘备和孙策)将来会成为他最大的对手。
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i agree with cao cao that law should be upheld no one should be given excuse because if the law is not upheld then what is the use of the law.
too bad many country doesn't follow this example specially PH

我同意曹操的观点,法律应该维护,任何人都不应该得到借口,因为如果法律不维护,那么法律有什么用。
可惜的是,很多国家没有特别遵循这个例子。

Remind me to not be promoted to supply officer

提醒我不要被提升为粮草官。

Idk why but I really liked that scene where Cao Cao's three advisers all came together and just talked. It kind of shows unity compared to Yuan Shao's advisers who constantly went against each other.

我不知道为什么,但是我真的很喜欢曹操的三个谋士聚在一起聊天的那一幕。与袁绍的谋士们经常互相争斗相比,这显示了他们多么的团结。

It's interesting how Cao Cao is surrounding himself with a growing circle of strategists and political advisors, but doesn't really have any champion warriors to match the likes of Lu Bu, Zhang Fei, or Guan Yu. Liu Bei, meanwhile, has his brothers at his side, as well as Zhao Yun, but he lacks any shrewd advisors like Xun Yu.
Also sucks to be that rations officer lol, first Cao Cao tells him to half the rations, then has him executed. Poor dude never stood a chance.

有趣的是,曹操身边的战略家和政治顾问越来越多,但却没有像吕布、张飞或关羽这样的勇猛战士。与此同时,刘备有他的兄弟们和赵云在他身边,但他缺少像荀彧那样精明的谋士。
同样糟糕的是,粮草官哈哈,首先曹操让他把口粮减半,然后又把他处死。可怜的家伙从来没有机会。

Cao Cao to supply officer: after you die, your wife will be my wife.

曹操对粮草官说:你死后,你的妻子就是我的妻子。

So many, yet so many people died for just food in these times. There were a lot of soldiers work for it. That is sad, probably most people died young. I think the clever people should have kept themselves well hidden on the mountain (zhuge liang , sima yi?) instead of dragging themselves in this mess for the fat rulers.

在那个时代,有那么多人仅仅为了食物而死。有很多士兵为此而参军。这很可悲,可能大多数人英年早逝。我认为聪明的人应该把自己藏在山上(像诸葛亮,司马懿那样)。

because in ancient china men do not cut any hair, they saw hair as given by parents, cutting hair is disrespectful to parents. cutting one's hair at that time was humiliating him. when Han Chinese was conquered by the Manchus, Manchus demanded people to adopt their custom and cut hairs, many people were executed because they would not cut their hairs

因为在中国古代男人不剪头发,他们认为头发是父母给的,剪头发是对父母的不尊重。在那个时候剪头发是对他的侮辱。汉人被满族人征服后,满族人要求人们接受他们的习俗和理发,那时有许多人因为不理发而被处死。
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第17集
  徐州城内,吕布每有设宴,陈圭、陈登父子便对吕布满口谄词,陈宫反而渐渐受到冷落。一日,陈宫猎于山野,在抓获的驿者身上搜出了曹操刘备往返的密信。吕布得知后大为愤慨,决定引兵讨伐刘备。他不顾陈宫的劝阻,令陈氏父子守城。小沛城外,陈宫设计引诱刘备出城,刘备陷于吕布的埋伏之中,三兄弟也在混战中失散。曹操大军赶到,刘备方知中了陈宫的奸计。吕布见曹操大军赶到,自知难敌,下令班师回徐州,方才发现陈氏父子已经据城为主了。吕布只得急投下邳。曹操率军到达城下,呼唤吕布,陈宫陪同吕布上城与曹操相见。

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Man, Cheng Gong has so much talent, and he's just wasting with Lu Bu.

天哪,陈宫这么有才华,跟吕布在一起就是浪费。

lu bu was just a brute. only skilled at fighting as a warriors. who do not understand a thing about strategy and politics

吕布就是个畜生。只会像战士一样战斗。他对战略和政治一窍不通。

Wow that Guo Jia is a cunning one. I remember Cao Cao lamenting the fact that if Guo did not die he would not have lost the battle of Chi Bi. Kongming said the same thing about Fa Zheng when Liu Bei lost at Yiling. LOL

哇,郭嘉真狡猾。我记得曹操曾悲叹,如果郭不死,他就不会输掉赤壁之战。孔明也曾这样说过,如果法正还在,刘备就不会输掉夷陵之战。哈哈

Cao Cao is like a Donald Trump that is actually good at being a leader

曹操就很像唐纳德·特朗普,都很擅长做领导人。
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This episode revealed a lot about Chen Gong. He really should have ditched Lu Bu after the latter rejected him for Chens Gui & Deng, but all along he wanted to serve Lu Bu because he was smarter than Lu Bu and felt he could control him (but couldn't do that with Cao Cao).

这一集揭露了很多关于陈宫的事情。他本来应该抛弃吕布的,吕布因为陈珪父子拒绝了他。但他一直想继续辅佐吕布,因为他认为自己比吕布聪明,觉得自己能控制他(但不能控制曹操)。
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"“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
That's exactly what Cao Caos is doing here. He managed to take Xu Zhou from Lu Bu without fighting.

“战争的最高艺术就是不战而屈人之兵。”
这正是曹操在这里所做的。他没打一仗就把徐州从吕布手中夺了过来。

LU BU OH LU BU, IF ONLY YOU WOULD LISTEN TO THAT CHEN GONG YOU MUST HAVE THE BEST RECORD IN HISTORY OF CHINA AS THE CONQUEROR OR EVEN MAYBE THE EMPEROR OF CHINA ITSELF!!!
UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR THICK-HEADED BRAIN IS TOO SOLID TO EVEN CONSUME THE GOOD INTENTION OF MASTER CHEN GONG, AND YOUR ARROGANCE PUT A SMOKE IN YOUR BRAIN.

啊,吕布!吕布,如果你愿意听陈宫的话,你一定是中国历史上最厉害的大将军,甚至可能是中国的皇帝!!
不幸的是,你的头脑太迟钝了,连陈宫大师的好意都无法理解,你的傲慢让你的头脑彻底糊涂。

Cao Cao is likeable in this series, despite how ancient historical records had painted him as a villain.
His sense of humor makes me laugh every time. The actor of Cao Cao did a brilliant job. Outstanding actor.

曹操在这个系列中是可爱的,尽管古老的历史记录把他描绘成一个恶棍。
但他的幽默感每次都让我发笑。曹操的演员演得很出色,是个杰出的演员。

Xuzhou still holds the same name after 2000 years

徐州在2000年后仍然保持着同样的名字。

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