芬兰囚犯住在开放式监狱里,在那里他们可以学习技术技能
2023-09-06 兰陵笑笑生 4053
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Prisoners In Finland Live In Open Prisons Where They Learn Tech Skills

芬兰囚犯住在开放式监狱,在那里他们学习技术技能

Many inmates in Finland live in “open prisons,” where they are allowed to own a vehicle, leave for work or school, and host overnight guests. Now, the country is funding educational programs where prisoners learn technology skills like artificial intelligence.

芬兰的许多囚犯生活在 "开放式监狱 "中,他们可以拥有一辆车,可以外出工作或上学,可以接待过夜客人。现在,该国正在资助教育项目,让囚犯学习人工智能等技术技能。

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Strider Schulte
Finland's prisons are nicer than America's public schools.

芬兰的监狱比美国的公立学校还要好。

A fat cat from sweden
Same in sweden with our own schools and we probably have the worst prisons in the nordic...

也比瑞典的公立学校好,而且我们的监狱还是北欧最差的......

Ilsunny Lo
Looks like a vacation home

看起来像是度假屋

Ta Ab
you think Finland real country?
one small town in USA have much more population than entire Finland

你真的觉得芬兰是一个真正的国家?
美国一个小镇的人口都比整个芬兰的人口要多得多

A fat cat from sweden
Ta Ab not a small town, a major city.

Ta Ab 不是一个小镇,是一个大城市。

Irene Garcia
@Ta Ab By your logic.... Finland is not a real country because of a comparison you made to an American town/city?
I've seen American towns with a population of 64. Micro-nations are a thing as well.

@Ta Ab按照你的逻辑....芬兰不是一个真正的国家,就因为你拿美国的城镇/城市与之做比较?
我还见过人口只有64个人的美国城镇呢。微型国家也是国家。

Jeremy Weed
America's prisons are nicer than America's public schools

美国的监狱也比美国的公立学校好

Derreck Jones
@Ta Ab Finland has a population of 5.5 million people. Your small towns do not have that many people

@Ta Ab 芬兰有550万人口。 你的小镇没有那么多人
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Ryan McGoldrick
That's because Finland's prisons are trying to prepare prisoners for a future career while American schools prepare students for prison.

这是因为芬兰的监狱正在努力为囚犯准备未来的职业生涯,而美国的学校则在为学生准备监狱。

Shackattack85
That’s bc Finland would rather invest into their people unlike republicans and democrats who support war profiteering, space profiteering, healthcare profiteering, bailouts of big corporations, playing captain America all over the world. So yea republicans and democrats get your stuff together and stop voting for democrats and republicans!

那是因为芬兰宁愿投资到他们的人民身上,而不像共和党和民主党支持战争暴利,太空暴利,医疗暴利,救助大公司,在全世界扮演美国队长。所以啊,共和主义者和民主主义者清醒过来,不要再投民主党人和共和党人的票了!

Siddesh Gannu
Safer too. In American high schools, you’re afraid of getting shot at random moment

也更安全。在美国的高中里,你害怕随时被枪击

M K
So, I fly to Finland, kill someone, and get best free education/full accommodation on taxpayers' money.. CAN SANE PEOPLE REALISE HOW FUCKED UP THIS IS?!!!

所以,我飞到芬兰,杀个人,然后用纳税人的钱得到最好的免费教育/全住宿... ...理智的人会意识到这是多么的操蛋吗?!!!

Pirapong James Marshman
@M K I mean every other 1st world country works like that they seem to be doing very well

@M K 我觉得每个第一世界国家都是这样的,他们似乎运行得很好

Modern Norseman
They're also nicer than India's any school. I hate being a part of the indian education system

他们也比印度任何学校都好。我讨厌成为印度教育体系的一部分

Soviet Дакa
Nha thay are better than UK schools

他们也比英国学校好

Dan
@M K you'll never understand.

@M K 你是永远都不会明白的。

natecarlo45
The US public school systems are not awful but they are very disappointing compared to where the country stands on the world stage. Students are typically just expected to know basic curriculum stuff and are not being molded for college or real life work it is just all about making money off of testing. Blame capitalism for diminishing the education system.

美国的公立学校系统并不糟糕,但与国家在世界舞台上的地位相比,它们非常令人失望。学生们通常只是被期望知道基本课程的东西,而不是被塑造为为大学或现实生活中的工作做准备,所有的测试都只是关于赚钱的。要怪就怪资本主义削弱了教育系统。

Siddesh Gannu
@William Reyes maybe. Im lucky to live in a nice place but even i’ve seen some sketchy characters in my high school. One of them got arrested in a drive-by shooting last year. Another incident in college where some guy got jealous of me over this girl I was close to. Threatened to kill me and was arrested on his way to campus with a gun.

@William Reyes 也许吧,我很幸运能住在一个好地方,但即使是我的高中,我也见过一些草莽人物。其中一个在去年的一起驾车枪击案中被捕。另一个事件在大学里,有人因为我身边的女孩而嫉妒我。威胁要杀了我,并在他带着枪去校园的路上被逮捕。

J Ram
I'm not sure why all the unfortunate attitude towards America, America is a great nation and we do a lot for the world in humanitarian services and our people overwhelmingly do more missionary work and support for poor nations than any other nation does. Our prison system isn't a solitary isolation system but for inmates that are too dangerous for general population it is used to protect others. Im very much for a better system but its awful to see my nation hated by so many people when we have so much good here

我不知道为什么这么多人对美国有这么大的意见,美国是一个伟大的国家,我们在人道主义服务方面为世界做了很多事情,我们的人民绝大多数做了更多的传教工作,对贫穷国家的支持比任何其他国家都多。我们的监狱系统并不是一个单独的隔离系统,而是关押对于对一般人来说太危险的囚犯,它是用来保护他人的。我非常支持一个更好的监狱系统,但是看到我的国家被这么多的人所憎恨真的很糟糕,明明我们也有很多很好的地方。

Dave Hong
John: I graduated from MIT
Brian: I was released from Finland prison.
Recruiter: Brian, you're hired.

约翰:我毕业于麻省理工学院
布莱恩:我从芬兰监狱被释放。
招聘人员:布莱恩,你被录用了。

Mystical
Finnish person gets life sentence prison be like:
"OH NO!!!"
"Anyway"

芬兰人被判终身监禁时:
“哦,不!!!”
“随便吧”

real person
honestly the finnish prison system makes me want to break the law on purpose

老实说,芬兰的监狱系统让我想故意违法

Mini Duckmate
even still then i would wanna do something small bc i dont want anyone to be heartbroken plus this is such a good system

即使是这样,我也不想做哪怕再小的恶,因为我不想让任何人心碎,而且这是一个很好的系统

Abha Chatterjee
@Mini Duckmate yeah, I agree. It's like they're using the 'We're not angry at all, we're just disappointed' approach which is usually so much more impactful at getting someone to change their behaviour.

@Mini Duckmate 是的,我同意。这就像他们在使用“我们一点都不生气,我们只是对你感到失望”的方法,这种方法通常对让某人改变他们的行为有更大的影响。

50 Madhukar Jonathan Minj
@Abha Chatterjee No it's not going to change psychopaths

@Abha Chatterjee 不,这无法改变精神病患者

Abha Chatterjee
@50 Madhukar Jonathan Minj No, of course not. This would only work on people who have a conscience and are able to experience guilt. No one can use guilt to fix a psychopath.

@50 Madhukar Jonathan Minj是的,当然不能。这只会对那些有良知并能感到内疚的人起作用。任何人都不能用内疚来修复一个精神病患者。

50 Madhukar Jonathan Minj
@Abha Chatterjee Yup, that's what I was thinking as well.

@Abha Chatterjee 是的,我也是这么想的。

Meri K
@Abha Chatterjee that's true actually! Our prison system is based on rehabilitating the prisoners do that they can have a chance at a better life after prison and actually adapt back into our society!

@Abha Chatterjee 说得对!我们的监狱系统是建立在改造囚犯的基础上的,他们可以有机会在监狱后过上更好的生活,并实际适应我们的社会!

Kurksikka Keitto
@xVetsku _ Life sentence can be for life but after 12 years a board will look if you can be released back to society.

@xVetsku _ 无期徒刑说是终身监禁,但12年后,一个委员会将考察你是否可以被释放回社会。

Courtdog2k3
The american prison system has an ulterior motive, Finland as a country isn't corrupt. They take care of their people. The republicans tell you how bad socialism would be. Bernie and AOC wanted this? Lets pick Biden then!!! Sounds suspect, and I suspect the evolution of slavery is why everything is the way it is here

美国的监狱系统是别有用心的,芬兰作为一个国家并不腐败。他们照顾他们的人民。共和党人告诉你社会主义会有多.糕。伯尼和AOC(Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 亚历山德里娅·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯)想要这个?那就选拜登吧!!!这听起来很可疑,我怀疑现在的美国是奴隶制的演变,所以这里的一切才会变成这样
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ronylouis
@Abha Chatterjee psychopaths can still get fixed, that's why we have psychoanalysis along with psychiatry. That Finland also implemented well.

@Abha Chatterjee 精神病患者仍然可以得到修复,这就是为什么我们有精神分析和精神病学。芬兰在这方面也执行得很好。

Kopie
Life sentence is 15 years? You get free housing and education? If your living in the streets, sick and have no one caring for you, you'll be sure finland's prison will help you out lol. You just have to do a minor offense, like, have sex on public?

无期徒刑是15年?你会得到免费的住房和教育?如果你住在街上,生病了,却没有人照顾你, 那你肯定会选择到芬兰的监狱帮助你走出困境哈哈哈。你只需要做一个轻微的罪行,比如,在公共场所做爱?

Kurksikka Keitto
@Kopie The thing is, there are virtually no people living in the streets due to the substantial welfare programs. You can get all the help that you get inside prison outside.

@Kopie 事实是,由于大量的福利计划,几乎没有人住在街上。你可以在监狱外面得到所有的帮助。

Kopie
@Kurksikka Keitto Wow. I'm saving up for finland mate.

@Kurksikka Keitto哇,我准备存钱娶个芬兰老婆了

niemine 17
my little cousins were murdered by their dad and he's spending only 13 years and living in a prison is very costly so dont think this system is good for every day

我的小表弟们被他们的父亲谋杀了,他只关了13年的时间而且住在监狱里是非常昂贵的,所以从来没认为这个系统好过。

Kurksikka Keitto
@niemine 17 If your little cousins dad got a life sentence, he will likely spend much more time in prison than 13 years.

@niemine 17如果你的表兄弟的父亲被判终身监禁,他在监狱里的时间可能会比13年多得多。

Why do i look like Oat meal
Bruh this guy looks more chill than the ppl outside of prison.

噗,这家伙看起来比监狱外的人更放松。

Let Me Translate
Imagine being the victims family seeing this crap

想象一下受害者的家人看到这些垃圾的心情

rakelgoj ludrahs
@Let Me Translate exactly

@Let Me Translate确实

Archer
you can be chill and murder someone don't judge a book by it's cover.

你也可以很放松然后谋杀一个人,别用封面来评判一本书。

512 Performance
@Let Me Translate I’m almost thinking that this guy must have murdered for an understandable reason I.e. finding out a guy sexually assaulted your daughter or caught a man cheating on your longtime wife. Has to be a reason that he’s only serving 15 years, and that they still allow him to have some freedom.

@Let Me Translate 我几乎可以想象得到,这家伙杀人的原因一定是可以理解的,比如发现一个男人性侵了你的女儿,或者发现一个男人欺骗了你的老妻。这么做一定是有原因的,他只需服15年的刑,而且他们还允许他有一些自由。

Cappuccino -
@Let Me Translate I’m sure there are high security prisons in Finland for extremely dangerous criminals. There’s no way every prisoner is allowed to stay at a place like this. Some will take that opportunity to escape.

@Let Me Translate 我相信芬兰有高度戒备的监狱,用来关押极其危险的罪犯。不可能每个犯人都被允许呆在这样的地方。有些人会趁机逃跑。
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Loop Doc
Lol..yea man

哈哈哈...是的伙计

Why do i look like Oat meal
And also- can we just talk about how this guy dove in the cold lake with no hesitation? Like, you gotta pay me a couple 1000 dollars for me to do that-

还有,我们能不能谈谈这个家伙是怎么毫不犹豫地跳进冰冷的湖里的?你得付我1000美元才能让我这么做-
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kb_cs
@Let Me Translate if someone tries attacking you with a knife and you defend yourself by killing them you could get life in prison, you don't have to be a serial killer to get life.

@Let Me Translate 如果有人试图用刀子攻击你,你用杀了他们来保护自己,你可能会被判无期徒刑。你不一定要成为连环杀手才能被判无期徒刑。

The Florida Man
@Why do i look like Oat meal That's just something that Fins do

@Why do i look like Oat meal 这在芬兰很平常(指冬泳)
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Roman K
@512 Performance Literally first sentence of the video states that he is serving life sentence for murder. What you are describing is called voluntary manslaughter.

@512 Performance 从字面上看,视频的第一句话就说他是因“谋杀罪”被判无期徒刑。你所描述的叫做“自卫过失杀人”。
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Hiro 016
@kb_cs that's self defense, you won't probably even get in prison if prove you were just defending yourself

@kb_cs 那是自卫,如果你证明你是在为自己正当防卫,你可能甚至不会进监狱

just leon
@Let Me Translate If I was the victim's family, I'd rather see my tax dollars being used to train the guy for a crime-free life, than simply covering his room & board, legal fees, etc. for God-knows how long, just to have him get out even worse & do it all again. I'm paying for it regardless, might as well get something useful out of it

@Let Me Translate 如果我是受害者的家人,我宁愿看到我的税款被用来训练这个家伙,让他过上无犯罪的生活,而不是简单地支付他的食宿费、律师费等,天知道要等多久,只是为了让他更糟糕地出狱,然后再犯一次罪。不管怎么说我都要付钱,还不如从中得到一些有用的东西。
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Ignacio Aguilar
@just leon I wouldn't. I would gladly pay for him to root in prison
Assuming it wasn't an accidental murder or something like that, but he it was evil

@just leon 我不会,我很乐意花钱让他在监狱里扎根。
假设他不是意外谋杀或类似的东西,只是纯粹的邪恶的。

just leon
@Ignacio Aguilar I guess you're equally evil then

@Ignacio Aguilar 那我觉得你也很邪恶

Furious Finn
@512 Performance The ”life” sentence is 13y here in Finland, and only how you can get more is to make more crimes while already having the sentence.
And first timers do only 1/2 of the sentence.
And first time juveniles do only 1/3 of the sentence.
So that’s why people does so much crimes cause sentences are a joke.
No matter how bad things anyone does..
And yeah as a Finn I can sure you that a normal unemployed person is having a much more worse everyday life. The inmates are in better situation and has better educational chances than a “normal” person.
So yeah, you wouldn’t believe how this reality feels like on over half a million people that are without a job.

@512 Performance在芬兰,"无期徒刑"的刑期是13年,只有在已经有刑期的情况下,你再去犯罪你才能获得更多的刑期。
而初犯只需要关1/2的刑期。
而第一次犯罪的青少年只需要关1/3的刑期。
所以,这就是为什么人们做了这么多的罪行,因为判刑就是一个笑话。
无论人们做了多么糟糕的事情......
是啊,作为一个芬兰人,我可以肯定你的说法,一个正常的失业人员有一个更糟糕的日常生活。囚犯的处境比"正常"人更好,受教育的机会也更好。
所以是的,你不会相信这个现实对50多万没有工作的人来说是什么感觉。

Jupiter
@Let Me Translate and how can you know who why and how he killed? Maybe he put self defence too far, or attack someone in a bar after argument and killed him without intentiot to do it, and family members of the victim could be some gang members, who knows, the fact that he is in open prison like that means he isn't treated as very dangerous inmate therefore as long as he commited crime he is most likely far from cold blooded killer with no remorse. There is two way whole situation could end, either family get their "revenge" and guy will rot in horrible prison to finally get out and most lilely commit some crimes as he wouldn't be resocialized but degenerate there, or they could try to make him a normal citizen once again and give him reasons to not go into crime, family could be not satisfied by it but general society would feel safer

@Let Me Translate你怎么能知道他杀的是谁,为什么,怎么杀的?也许他是防卫过当,或者在酒吧里争吵后袭击了某人,并在无意中杀了他,而受害者的家人可能是一些帮派成员,谁知道呢,事实上,他被关在这样的开放式监狱里,意味着他并没有被当作非常危险的囚犯对待,因此,虽然他犯罪了,但他很可能不是没有悔意的冷血杀手。整个情况有两种结局,一是受害者家属得到他们想要的"报复",这个家伙会在可怕的监狱里腐烂,最后出来,很容易重新犯罪,因为他不会被重新社会接受,而是在那里堕落,或者他们可以尝试让他再次成为一个正常的公民,并因此不再犯罪,受害者家属可能对此不会满意,但社会里的普通人会感到更安全。

My Code Evolution
@Jupiter or maybe they let him out again thinking that he has been rehabilitated and goes nuts and kills more people breaks in someone's home and kills their mother in and armed robbery. Maybe if that happens they should put him in a nicer place right?! They can say maybe we weren't given him everything he needed. We could do hypotheticals all day on this.

@Jupiter 或者他们又把他放出来了,以为他已经改过自新,结果他之后又发疯,杀了更多的人... ...闯进别人的家,在持枪抢劫中杀死了别人的母亲。也许如果那样的话,他们应该把他放在一个更好的地方,对吧?! 他们可以说也许我们没有给他所需要的一切(所有他才会变成这样)。我们可以做一整天的假设。
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My Code Evolution
@Jupiter in America self defense is not a crime.

@Jupiter还有在美国正当防卫不是犯罪

My Code Evolution
@Furious Finn man that's terrible to think people who don't respect the law or even human decency get treated better than people who are actually trying and struggling.

@Furious Finn 伙计,认为那些不尊重法律甚至不尊重人类尊严的人应该比那些真正努力和为生计挣扎的人得到更好的待遇是可怕的。

Jupiter
@My Code Evolution they let him out couse his sentence ended, no matter what they think about someone, when sentence end he have to be get out. Its not a hypothesis that Finnish system works better than some other systems, its all in statistics and simple look at them will give you a hard evidence.
About self defence, I didn't talk about self defence in general but about geting too far in self defence, thats a different thing, you cannot just shoot everyone who pose some threat to you under "self defence" excuse, your doings must be justified.
Now lets take a look at evidence, so one of the statistics avaible for everyone to check: RECIIVISM RATE- Finland have one of the lowest recidivism rate in whole world, that should tell you something right? Its 35%. The lowest in Norway just a 20%, and Norway is well known for having very good and humane prisons. For example in United States its 64%. You cannot argue with that, couse this are FACTS. So no matter what you would like to do, you have to accept the truth: humane treating prisoners and giving them job opportunities drastically lower crime rate. Simple as that.

@My Code Evolution 他们放他出来是因为他的刑期结束了,不管他们怎么看一个人,当刑期结束时,他必须被释放。这不是一个假设,芬兰的制度比其他一些制度更好,统计数据就在那,简单地看一眼可以给你一个确凿的证据。
关于自卫,我没有说过一般的自卫,而是说过火的自卫,那是另一回事,你不能以"自卫"为借口,向所有对你构成威胁的人开枪,你的行为必须是合理的。
现在让我们来看看证据,让大家看看其中的一个数据。再犯率--芬兰是世界上再犯率最低的国家之一,这应该能说明一些问题吧?它是35%。挪威最低,只有20%,而且挪威的监狱很好,很人性化。而在美国,它是64%。你无法与之争论,因为这是事实。所以,无论你想做什么,你都必须接受这样的事实:人道地对待囚犯,给他们工作机会,能大大降低犯罪率。就这么简单。

Assapopoulos Mariolis
Blm types will never learn.. so prison in the US will never be this way

黑命贵那种永远不会学习,所以在美国的监狱永远不会这样

My Code Evolution
@Jupiter we have 50 different states and different cultures and the crime rates are different in each state and local government is different.. My city Houston has about the same population Finland. I looked up the recidivism rate and it is at 20%. We have rehabilitation centers for people who have a good chance. Our economy is quite good here, cost of living is very low taxes, we have high paying jobs and we're one of the most diverse cities in America too. All of America is not the same a lot of people don't realize that though. Too many stereotypes are not good.

@Jupiter 我们有50个不同的州和不同的文化,犯罪率在每个州都是不同的,地方政府也是不同的。我所在的城市休斯顿的人口和芬兰差不多。我查了一下累犯率,它是在20%。我们有康复中心,为有机会的人提供康复服务。我们这里的经济相当好,生活成本很低税收很低,我们有高薪的工作,我们也是美国最多元化的城市之一。全美国都不一样,很多人虽然没有意识到这一点。太多的刻板印象不是好事。

Jotaroジョジョ
@Let Me Translate Well when you try to move away from this savage idea of retribution and damnation, you won’t be in such a sad and psychopathic lifestyle.

@Let Me Translate 怎么说呢,当你试图摆脱这种野蛮的报复和诅咒的想法时,你就不会处于如此悲伤和心理变态的生活方式中。
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Let Me Translate
@Jotaroジョジョ how dare you use Jotaro sensei against me lol
@Jotaroジョジョ 你竟敢挂着空条承太郎的ID这么说我哈哈哈哈

Kawaii伝説
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This opportunity doesn’t seem to be given to every prisoners, we can see how this guy does his best to study and get his job

这个机会似乎并没有给每个囚犯,我们可以看到这个人是如何尽他最大的努力学习和得到他的工作的

posham
@No one it’s free for all citizens... not just prisoners.

@No one它对所有公民都是免费的......不仅仅是囚犯。

TheMandalorian
They said in the video that the prisoners are given the same opportunities. You’re talking about whether people take advantage of those opportunities. You don’t know how many prisoners take advantage of those opportunities. Stop judging.

他们在视频中说,囚犯有同样的机会。你说的是人们是否利用了这些机会。你不知道有多少囚犯利用了这些机会。别评头论足
Kawaii伝説

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TheMandalorian I didn’t say anything bad lol, you seem to not understand my comment

TheMandalorian我没有说任何坏话,你似乎不明白我的评论哈哈哈

scrappy coco
If you don't want to study then don't. If you don't want to get a job then don't. I mean Finland prisoners have the freedom that I never had before 18. Where you're born is important I guess.

如果你不想学习,那就不要。
如果你不想找工作,那就不要。
芬兰的囚犯有我18岁以前从未有过的自由。
所以你出生的地方很重要。

Gabriel Duran
Thief: goes to prison for theft
Also Thief: gets Bachelors in Fine Arts

小偷:因盗窃入狱
还是这个小偷:获得美术学士学位

gabe ng
He got sent to prison for stealing paintings

他因偷画被送进监狱

JJ
Imagine the prisoner showed such dedication in his courses just to get out and commit another murder for satisfaction

想象一下,这个囚犯在他的课程中表现出如此的奉献精神,只是为了得到满足而离开并犯下另一桩谋杀

Pinoy Fudanshiii
@JJ Numbers shows that it is less likely to happen compared to other countries' prison treatment.

@JJ 数字表明,与其他国家的监狱待遇相比,这种情况不太可能发生。

Matthew Vanston
@JJ With the fairly low recidivism rate in Finland, that's unlikely.

@JJ 由于芬兰的累犯率相当低,那是不可能的。

Sam
Just casually "he's serving out a sentence for murder"

视频说“他因为谋杀罪服刑”,只是随便一说
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Aldous Huxley
The question is if this is going to make him regret anything

问题是这会不会让他后悔

Mitchell Weymark
He says you should give people a chance and he's a murderer. This is disgusting

他以一个杀人犯的身份说你应该给别人一个机会。太恶心了

Bloody G
@Mitchell Weymark you don’t know the circumstances. I agree with him

@Mitchell Weymark 你不知道当时的情况。我同意他的说法

Derek R
@Mitchell Weymark people like you are the reason society has made no advancements

@Mitchell Weymark 像你这样的人是社会没有进步的原因

Sunday Missal
@Derek R - you think it’s “progress” to let people get away with murder without being punished? He’s being rewarded!

@Derek R -你认为让人们逃脱谋杀而不受惩罚是一种“进步”吗?他是被奖励了!

Finn Daly
@Sunday Missal I'm guessing the justice system and healthcare in Finland is also much better than in the US, and so they know very well what his mental state and criminal circumstances are. His chances of successfully committing another such offense are much lower than this relaxed environment implies. It's not like they'd pull the American move of "violently suppress and/or dump back on the street."

@Sunday Missal 我猜测芬兰的司法系统和医疗服务也比美国好很多,所以他们很清楚他的精神状态和犯罪情况。他再次成功犯下此类罪行的几率要比在这种宽松的环境所暗示的低很多。他们也不会像美国人那样采取 "暴力镇压和/或压倒在街上"的行动。

Sunday Missal
@Finn Daly - I’m not defending the American system, but it’s a matter of justice that murderers be punished...

@Finn Daly-我不是在维护美国的制度,但要惩罚杀人犯是关乎正义的问题......
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Purple Dodecahedron
@Sunday Missal I'd adore to have a conversation with you. In the Quentin Tarantino film, ' Inglorious Basterds ' they all killed people. The righteous killed the Nazis. For a good reason.

@Sunday Missal我很想和你谈谈。在昆汀·塔伦蒂诺的电影《无耻的混蛋》中,他们都杀了人。正义者杀了纳粹。有很好的理由。

Mitchell Weymark
It's ironic don't you think? He had the equal rights of everyone else before he commited a crime. Of course if it was some sort of self defense case it's different but they don't mention that. I don't know why he would get life for something like that.

你不觉得这很讽刺吗?他在犯罪前就拥有与其他人平等的权利。当然,如果这是某种自卫的情况下,它是不同的,但他们没有提到这一点。我也不知道他为什么会因为这样(正当防卫)的事情而被判无期徒刑。

Mitchell Weymark
@Derek R not all advancements are good ones from what the video shows he could take off from the jail never to be seen again before his sentence is even done

@Derek R 并非所有的进步都是好的。从视频中可以看出,他甚至可能在刑期未满之前就从监狱中离开了。

René Moncayo
@Sunday Missal he’s being reformed , to be rewarded , he’d have to get more than the standard Finn

@Sunday Missal 他正在改过自新,所以理应得到奖励,他必须得到比普通芬兰人更多的东西

Rem Remm
@Derek R I feel like rewarding and letting people get away with murder is the definition of a primal society but okay.

@Derek R 我觉得奖励犯人让人们远离谋杀是原始社会的定义,但(你可以这么想)没关系。

Adam Gotlib
@Aldous Huxley and why should it be that important what he does and doesn't regret. The principal reason for the existence of the criminal justice system is that less crimes are committed and society is safer as a whole. There are two methods to do it, one involves a carrot and one involves a stick. I don't see how any one is better than the other. We can only judge the results they bring.
Edit: And well, to be fair, the name criminal justice is a bit misleading. It's not about justice in the sense of making bad people feel bad. It's a public institution and it is there to serve a function for the benefit of the society. That's all.

@Aldous Huxley 其实他做了什么和有没有后悔很重要吗。刑事司法系统存在的主要原因是让犯罪减少,整个社会更安全。达成这个目的有两种方法,一种是胡萝卜,一种是大棒。我看不出任何一种方法比另一种更好的地方。我们只能评价它们带来的结果。
编辑:好吧,说句公道话,刑事司法这个名字有点误导人。它的作用并不是用正义让坏人感觉内疚。它就是一个公共机构,它的作用是为了社会的利益。仅此而已。

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