大英博物馆里到处都是被盗的文物

Probably didn't steal the pyramid because it was too heavy

他们不偷金字塔可能是因为它太重。

The irony is that the British were so busy stealing other people's history that their own history cannot find space in London. I was shocked that London does not have a dedicated Anglo-Saxon history museum when I visited last year. Only small ignored corners of the British museum has things like the Sutton Hoo treasure being dwarfed under the glory of the Egyptian and Middle-Eastern collection. I was genuinely feeling sorry for them.

具有讽刺意味的是，英国人这么忙着窃取别人的历史，以至于他们自己的历史在伦敦都找不到一席之地。去年我去伦敦参观时，令我震惊的是，伦敦竟然没有专门的盎格鲁-撒克逊人的历史博物馆。在大英博物馆中一个被忽视的小角落里，有着像“萨顿胡”这样的珍宝，但在埃及和中东的藏品的位置显得相形见绌。我真心地为他们感到难过。

They have even looted the word “loot” itself.

他们甚至掠夺了“loot”这个词本身。

So ancient artifacts to the British is like oil to Americans.

所以古代文物对英国人来说，就像石油对于美国人那样。

Some Country: Has some Ancient History
Britain: is for me?

一些国家：有一些古老的历史。
英国：可以给我吗?

"Disputed ownership" is a typically British way of saying something is stolen.

“有争议的所有权”是典型的英式说法，其实真正的含义是表示某物是被盗的。

For Brits who think this is ok. Imagine if the French came in a war, grabbed the half of Stonehenge and took it to Paris.

给那些认为这没问题的英国人。想象一下，如果法国人发动一场战争，夺取了巨石阵的一半，并把它带到巴黎。

Never ask:
A woman: her age
A man: his salary
British Museum: where they got there stuff

从来不要问：
女人：她的年龄
男人：他的薪水
大英博物馆：他们是从哪里得到这些东西的

Tourists visit this foreign museum to see their own cultural history

游客参观这个外国博物馆，却是为了了解他们自己的文化历史。

Probably didn't stole the Taj Mahal because it was too heavy

不偷泰姬陵可能是因为它太重了。

You know what? Sometimes I think they keep the artefacts like they were some trophy. My nation was colonized by the British forces, so some of our artefacts were there. Some of you might say that it is better there in the Western museums for people to see, but for the people that had suffered under the colonization, returning these artefacts.. I think it would be some sort of closure. The colonizing has ended. Why would returning what had belonged to the nations colonized be so strange?

你知道吗?有时我觉得他们是在把这些文物当成战利品一样保存着。我的国家曾是英国的殖民地，所以我们的一些文物就在那里。你们中的一些人可能会说，在西方的博物馆里让人们参观更好，但是对于那些在殖民统治下受苦的人来说，归还这些文物…这将是某种形式的殖民结束。而现实是，殖民统治早已结束，那么为什么归还属于被殖民国家的东西是奇怪的呢?
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It shouldn't even be called The British Museum if it's mostly filled with art from other nations/cultures.

它甚至不应该被称为大英博物馆，因为它充满了来自其他国家的文化艺术。

Imagine robbing someones house and displaying their stolen stuff in your house

想象一下抢劫了别人的房子，还把偷来的东西陈列在家里。

Imagine debating about stolen artifacts.
"You stole our stuffs. Give it back."
"We stole it from you so now it's rightfully ours."

想象一下关于被盗文物的辩论。
“你偷了我们的东西。给它还回来。”
“我们从你们那里偷走了它，所以现在它理应属于我们。”

As John Oliver once said: "The British Museum is basically an active crime scene"

正如约翰·奥利弗所说:“大英博物馆基本上就是一个活跃的犯罪现场。”

We actually talked about this a ton in a Greek art class I took last year. A possible solution I personally was a fan of was to return the stolen goods and have museums like the British museum display life size 3D prints. Then they still have their display and guests can more readily interact with the obxt AND bonus is multiple countries can display the same artifact and share that countries history

去年我在希腊艺术课上讲过很多次。我个人喜欢的一个可能的解决方案是归还被盗文物，并让像大英博物馆这样的博物馆展示真实大小的3D打印文物。然后他们仍然可以有自己的展示物品，客人也可以更容易地与物品互动。另外就是多个国家可以显示同一件文物，并更好的分享该个国家的历史。

The Queen's crown is made of stolen jewelry.

女王的王冠就是由偷来的珠宝做成的。

"The British Museum is full of stolen artifacts"
Every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes

“大英博物馆里到处都是被盗的文物。”
这句话，就好比“在非洲，每六十秒就过去了一分钟”。

"How do you think your ancestors got these? Do you think they paid a fair price? Or did they take it, like they took everything else?"

“你认为你的祖先是怎么得到这些东西的?”你认为他们付的价钱公平吗?还是他们就像拿走普通东西一样拿走了它?”

They told us Africans didn't contribute to civilization but their museums are full of our ancestors arts and crafts. They could have stolen the Great Pyramid, it’s just that it was too heavy.

他们告诉我们非洲人对文明没有贡献，但他们的博物馆里满是我们祖先的艺术品和手工艺品。他们本可能偷了大金字塔，但只是他太沉了。
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I am à Nigerian and I am an artist. A lonely tear rolled down my cheek as I watched this.

我是一个尼日利亚人，我是一个艺术家。看着这一切，一滴眼泪从我的脸颊滑落。
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"we won't give your stuff back but you can borrow it if you want"
this is so frustratingly sad. people have a right to see and experience the history of their culture on their own land, especially after they've gained independence from colonial rule.

"我们不会还你的东西的，但是你可以借"
这太让人沮丧了。人们应该有权利在自己的土地上观看和体验自己的文化历史，特别是在他们摆脱殖民统治获得独立之后。
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the British act like it's not a big deal, but how would they feel if the same thing happened to them? what if the big ben was broken into small pieces and shipped to Greece, just like they did with Parthenon

英国人表现的样子好像是在说，这没什么大不了的。但如果同样的事情发生在他们身上，他们会有什么感觉呢?如果大本钟被打碎成小块，然后运到希腊，就像帕台农神庙那样。

French museums:(pretends they're not related with this matter)

法国博物馆：(假装与此事无关)。

I went to the British museum and saw the Rosetta Stone. I was like “omg it looks so real”. No duh! It was the real one

我去了大英博物馆，看到了罗塞塔石碑。我当时就想“天哪，看起来真像啊”。不不不！这才是真正的那个。

Idk cause on one hand the British did steal the artifact and they definitely don’t own them but you do have to admit that more people are seeing the artifact then they would if they were in some country.
But on the other hand if these artworks came to its original country’s that would be great for tourism and boost their economy’s.

因为一方面，英国人确实偷了文物，他们肯定不拥有它们，但你必须承认，在英国会有更多的人看到这些文物，相比于在原籍国。
但另一方面，如果这些艺术品来到了它的原籍国，这也将促进他们的旅游业以及经济。

Can we have our history back?
British: But we are still looking at it

能把我们的历史拿回去吗?
英国人：但是我们还在考虑。

At least the artifacts still exist. What about the non-physical heritage: languages, cultures, religions... have been eradicated by British and European colonialism.

至少人工制品仍然存在。非物质文化遗产呢：语言、文化、宗教……已经被英国和欧洲的殖民主义铲除干净。

Even the kohinoor in queen's crown is disputed. She claims that it was gifted to them but that's all lie

甚至女王王冠上的科依诺尔钻石也是有争议的。她声称那是送给他们的礼物，但那全是谎言。

I doubt those artifacts would be safer at their land of origin

我怀疑这些文物在原籍国是否会是安全的。

I’m Assyrian and I’m glad the British have many artefacts from Mesopotamia. If they didn’t then it would have been destroyed by ISIS. People should acknowledge the great service the British have done by preserving many artefacts, which would have been neglected and not as well taken care of in many third world countries.

我是亚述人，我很高兴英国人有很多来自美索不达米亚的文物。因为如果他们不这样做，那么这些文物就会被ISIS摧毁。人们应该承认英国人在保存文物上做出了巨大贡献。毕竟这些文物如果是在第三世界国家可能就会被忽视，得不到很好的照顾。

Lol, this vid is pointless... every big European muzeum have stolen artifacts...

哈哈，这个视频毫无意义。毕竟每一个大型的欧洲博物馆都有偷窃来的文物。

so basically when the rich people steal something its not illegal and they aren't punished for their action.

所以基本上可以说，富人偷东西是不违法的，而且他们的行为也不会受到惩罚。

British logic
Foreigners: “Go back to where you came from!”
Foreign artefacts: “But you belong here!”

英国的逻辑
对外国人:“滚回你来的地方去！”
对外国文物:“但你属于这里！”

The important artifacts and items of human history are actually more safe in The British Museum than for say in Egypt or Peru.

人类历史上重要的文物和物品放在大英博物馆，实际上要比放在埃及或秘鲁更安全。

People from ex-colonies are forced to travel to London to see their stuff. What about their counterparts which remained in the original countries? Ah, ok, they were destroyed, burnt, exploded, melted, shattered, sold, dismounted. So, in a certain way it is a positive thing that the metropolis stole them -- it played a vital role in their preservation as wealth of all humanity.

来自前殖民地的人们被迫前往伦敦看他们的文物。那些留在原籍国的其它文物呢?啊，好吧，他们被毁了，烧了，爆炸了，熔化了，粉碎了，卖掉了等等。所以，从某种意义上说，被偷走，对于这些文物是一件好事——大英博物馆在保存它们作为全人类财富的过程中发挥了至关重要的作用。

Please do something about the ‘Irish famine’, and how it was actually genocide not famine. Ireland had enough food to feed its starving population but yet the British continued to ship food out of Ireland. Leaving people to starve to death, people literally having nothing but grass to eat. The effects of British colonialism on Ireland is not nearly talked about enough.

请为“爱尔兰大饥荒”做个视频，以及它为什么实际上是种族灭绝而不是所谓的饥荒。爱尔兰有足够的食物来养活它的饥饿人口，但英国人却持续从爱尔兰运出食物。这导致爱尔兰人饿死。除了草，人们真的什么都没得吃了。现在，大家对爱尔兰被英国殖民很少提及。

When you enter the place you’d think it’s gonna be a eye opening beautiful experience but with every piece you see you realise what the history of acquiring it would have been and what should have been a beautiful experience just turns into a heartbreaking one.
When I went in there, I didn’t anticipate that it would make me feel so sad about all things.
Our rich past adorning someone else’s buildings when ours remain woefully empty.

当你进入这个地方时，你会认为这将是一个令人大开眼界的美好体验过程。但随着每件文物的出现，你会了解到他们获得这个文物的历史是怎样的，而原本美好的体验则变成了令人心碎的经历。
当我进去的时候，我完全没有预料到我为会这些事情感到难过。
我们丰富的过去装饰着别人的建筑，而我们自己的建筑却空无一物。

I mean ethically speaking, you can't return something to someone who doesn't exist anymore
Say for example the Egyptian artifacts, the current Egyptian government is not the same government who orchestrated the creation of such obxts and also, you can't give it back to the people since the creators are already dead
Moder day Egyptian culture is more Arabic and Islamic rather than Egyptian from the Pharaoh era, like the destruction of the Buddha of Bamiyan from Afghanistan by the hands of the Taliban。
Museums offer a free service of safeguarding the past in protection against people who opt to change history and reality

我的意思是，从道德上讲，你不能把东西还给已经不存在的政府或人。
比如埃及的文物，现在的埃及政府并不是创造这些物品的那个政府，而且你也不能把它还给那里的人，因为创造的人早就死了
现代埃及文化更多的是阿拉伯和伊斯兰文化，而不是法老时代的埃及文化。就像阿富汗的巴米扬大佛会被不同宗教的塔利班破坏一样。
博物馆提供了保护过去的免费服务，也防止那些妄图改变历史和现实的人。

They leave out that the cultures that were "looted" were also destroying such artifacts at frightening rates.
Islam STILL actively destroys such artifacts as do many tribal groups.

他们忽略了被“掠夺”的那个国家的人也在以惊人的速度摧毁这些文物。
伊斯兰教和许多部落团体一样，仍然在积极地破坏这些文物。

and yet if the British didn't "steal" the artifacts, some of them might have been destroyed by "native" zealots from their respective countries.

然而，如果英国人没有“偷走”这些文物，其中一些可能已经被他们各自国家的“本土”狂热分子摧毁了。

"For the whole world to see"... yeah sure because anyone can pay for a trip to London

“让全世界都看到”。是的，你当然会这么说，因为人们就需要花钱去伦敦旅行了。

By all intents and purposes these institutions have full ownership of the items. I think a good compromise would be to have these items go on tour through several museums, especially in their country of origin, instead of residing solely in one place.

无论从何种意义上说，这些机构都拥有这些物品的全部所有权。我认为一个很好的折衷方案是让这些展品在多个博物馆之间巡回展出，尤其是在它们的原籍国，而不是只在一个地方展出。

Ah the irony. England is so tiny and despite being so small it conquered a quarter of the world. This is the prize of the strong.

讽刺啊。英国如此的小，尽管如此，它却能征服世界的四分之一。所以这些就是强者的战利品。

This happens in the US all the time with Native pieces as well. If you dig up something on private land, you don't have to repatriated it to the tribe it belongs to...most people put it on eBay and it leaves the country forever.

这在美国的本土文物上也经常发生。如果你在私人土地中挖出了什么东西，你不必把它归还给它所属的部落……大多数人会把它放在eBay上...然后它就永远离开了这个国家了。

India had one of the richest and largest economies in the world before the British came .

在英国人到来之前，印度是世界上最富有和最大的经济体之一。

Britain should return all the artifacts back to where they stole from , just to even show some goodwill and compensate the damage they cause to their colonies. Just because USA had the first nuclear bomb didn't mean they start looting and conquering smaller countries. Shamefull history of United Kingdom.

英国应该把所有的文物归还给他们偷来的地方去，是为了表示一些善意，也是为了赔偿他们对殖民地造成的损害。就像美国拥有了第一颗核弹，但这也并不意味着他们会掠夺和征服周边较小的国家。所以英国历史，可耻。

It would be nice not to charge you for storage.

没有向你们收保管费就不错了。

David Cameron has also said he would oppose returning the diamond. “If you say yes to one you suddenly find the British Museum would be empty,”

戴维·卡梅伦也表示，他将反对归还那颗钻石。“如果你答应了其中一个归还，你就会突然发现大英博物馆会空无一物。”
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I'd rather go to 1 place to see a large range of global historical artifacts than to hundreds or thousands of museums around the world.

我宁愿去一个地方就能看到世界上各种各样的历史文物，也不愿去世界上成百上千个博物馆去看文物。

the rightful owners of the artefacts are those with the facilities to preserve and protect them

文物的合法拥有者是那些有能力保存和保护它们的人

Countries with decades of history are not qualified to preserve these cultural relics.

几十年历史的国家，没有资格保存这些文物。

Oh yes give the Bronzes to Nigeria. They should fetch $200 at the scrap yard.lol

对了，把青铜器给尼日利亚吧。它们应该能在废料场卖到200美元。哈哈。

why are you surprised? Europeans are colonizers ..
they colonized every continent in this world .. who gave them the right?
of course themselves.

你为什么感到惊讶?欧洲人可是殖民者。
他们殖民了世界上每一块大陆。谁给了他们权利?
当然是自己。

"Can we have our historical artifacts back please?"
"No! They are safe here where everyone can see them."
"I want to see my history can I have a Visa?"
"No! Stop trying to invade our lands."

“能把我们的历史文物拿回来吗?”
“不！他们在这里很安全，每个人都能看到他们。”
“我想看看我的历史，能给我签证吗?”
“不！你不要试图入侵我的土地。”

1. Claim rights. 2. Demand autonomy. 3. Be independent. 4. Demand the return of mineral resources. 5. Cultural relics are required. 6. Demand an apology. 7. Claim compensation and kneel down for insult. So it's good to be stuck at step 5 right now.

1，要求权利。2，要求自治。3，要求独立。4，要求矿产资源所有权归还。5，要求文物归还。6，要求道歉。7，要求赔偿和下跪侮辱。所以现在卡在第五步不动蛮好的。

Did you know that France was hiding a collection of skulls that belong to leaders of the Algerian resistance and for 150 years they were in the storage of the national museum of Paris until last month were the Algerian government restored them after 6 years of negotiation

你知道法国藏了一批阿尔及利亚抵抗运动领导人的头骨吗?这些头骨在巴黎国家博物馆保存了150年之久，直到上个月，经过6年谈判的阿尔及利亚政府才拿回了这些头骨。

"Two robbers breaking into a museum. One has looted, the other has burnt. ... one of the two conquerors filled its pockets, seing that, the other filled its safes; and they came back to Europe laughing hand-in-hand. ... Before history, one of the bandits will be called France and the other England." ———— Victor Hugo

“两名抢劫犯闯入圆明园。一个掠夺，另一个纵火。两个征服者中的一个装满了他的口袋，另一个装满了他的箱子。然后他们手拉手笑着回到欧洲。在历史面前，强盗中一个叫法国，另一个叫英国。”——维克多·雨果

"originals owners trying to retrieve them"
no
Their original owners died long ago
Now some people try to "retrieve" them only because those obxt were made in the place they live today
It's based on nothing and they are not more legitimate than the ones who stole those items in the first place
If you're against the looting that occured in those past times, you should be against the "retrieving" .

“原始所有者试图找回它们”
不
它们的原主人在很久以前就去世了。
现在有些人试图“找回”它们，只是因为这些物品是在它们今天居住的地方制造的。
这是毫无根据的，他们并不比那些所谓偷东西的人更合法。
如果你反对过去发生的掠夺，那你也应该反对现在发生的“收回”。

Depends on if the museum has a fee or not. If it's free to enter the museum then it should stay in Britain as it is a much more free country and more people could view the artifacts

这取决于博物馆是否收费。如果大家可以自由进入博物馆，那么它就应该留在英国，因为英国是一个更加自由的国家，可以有更多的人可以看到这些文物。

If you conquer a territory, you own the territory and their property. Even in basic games of conquer you learn that

如果你征服了一块领土，你就拥有这块领土和它的财产。即使在基本的征服游戏中，你也能学到这一点。

Technically, British history is the history of conquest. Those treasures are critical to the history of Britain.

严格地说，英国历史就是征服史。那些珍宝对英国的历史至关重要。

London it’s a world capital, it makes more logic these artifacts to stay in a place where thousands and millions of people visit each year; I’m brazilian and few years ago our national museum was set on fire regarding the lack of infrastructure care and we lost our history artifacts;

伦敦是世界之都，把这些文物留在一个每年有成千上万人参观的地方会会更有道理。我是巴西人，就在几年前，我们的国家博物馆因为缺乏基础设施而被烧毁，我们也因此失去许多历史文物。

The weak are 80% of the world's people, the strong are the rest. So the weak are often the loudest voices, but they can't change the world as it is. The comment area is clearly like this,they're just loud.

弱者是世界八成的人，强者则是剩下的二成。所以弱者的声音往往比较大，但他们改变不了这个世界的现状。这个留言区很明显就是这个样子，他们也就声音大点罢了。

I'm going to get a bit of flak for this, but let's not forget, at the time these artifacts were taken, said countries were part of the British Empire, therefore the countries who claim them did not exist as independent entities at the time. Most of those items would not have even been discovered without the effort of britain archeologists.

我可能会因此受到一些抨击，但我们不要忘记，在这些文物被拿走的时候，这些国家都是大英帝国的一部分，因此那些声称它们是独立实体的国家在当时并不存在。如果没有英国考古学家的努力，这些物品中的大部分是不可能被发现的。