QA：为什么大多数学生在特殊教育中感到如此沮丧?

The Scribblehead
Because people assume we're stupid all the time. Because we're kept away from the “normal” kids, in our own little bubble, all the time. The teachers don't take how we feel seriously because we're “special” and therefore they think we don't understand what we're feeling. I had special education all my life (I'm in a general education class with an IEP now, high school) and it didn't go well for me. Here's what happened in grade 3–8 though.

因为人们一直认为我们很愚蠢。因为我们远离了“正常”的孩子，一直呆在我们自己的小世界里。老师们不把我们的感受当回事，因为我们“特别”，因此他们认为我们不理解自己的感受。我的一生都在接受特殊教育(我现在在一个普通教育班上，高中的个别化教育计画)，这对我来说并不顺利。

*I was “weird” so my other special peers picked on me a shit ton. I'm talking almost the whole class, 10 kids against one at times. For everything and anything- my voice, how I looked, my stims, and especially my interests (Nintendo games and animated cartoons)

*我很“古怪”，所以我的其他特别的同伴都找我的茬。我说的几乎是全班，10个孩子针对1个孩子。我的声音，我的长相，我的身体，尤其是我的兴趣(任天堂游戏和动画片)

*Teachers didn't do much when I told them I was being bullied. I reached out to everybody, begging them to transfer me out or keep certain kids away from me, but we had to stick together because we were the special kids and the class was “a place for kids just like us”. I was also not discharged from special services I didn't need anymore in timely fashion. I'm talking no longer needing Adapted Phys Ed by the time I was in grade 3 but not getting discharged until grade 7, *after* having a genuine panic attack in front of the class. (I had been in that program since kindergarten and hated sitting out on the bleachers by myself. Eventually it got so lonely and isolating that I just COMPLETELY lost my shit.)

*当我告诉老师我被欺负时，他们没怎么做。我联系了所有人，求他们把我转出去或者让某些孩子远离我，但我们必须团结在一起，因为我们是特殊的孩子，而这个班是“适合我们这样的孩子的地方”。我也没有被及时解除我不再需要的特殊服务。我说的是我在三年级的时候就不再需要适应理疗教育了但直到七年级在全班同学面前恐慌发作之后才出院。(我从幼儿园起就参加了这个项目，我讨厌一个人坐在露天看台上。最终，它变得如此孤独和孤立，我我完全失去理智了。)

*The name felt so condescending, too: “SPECIAL ed.”

*这个名字感觉也很有优越感:“特殊教育”。

*I felt held back because the work was so easy to get done, but the class was very slow-paced.

*作业很容易完成，但课堂节奏很慢。

In more recent years, I've gotten way better since switching into General Education classes; weirdly enough, I get along with the kids in there much easier than I did with my special ed peers. They don't make fun of me for any of my ASD symptoms, and they treat me with respect. I go to an art school too, so people who like Nintendo or animating things aren't hard to come across. Most teachers treat me with respect.

近年来，自从转入通识教育课程后，我的学习成绩好多了; 奇怪的是，我和那里的孩子们相处得比我和那些特殊教育的同龄人要容易得多。他们不会因为我的孤独症谱系障碍症状取笑我，他们尊重我。我也在艺术学校上学，所以喜欢任天堂或动画的人并不难遇到。大多数老师都很尊重我。

Special ed still hurts though…? Like, I feel like a moron whenever I fail a test or how I can never get above a C in much of anything no matter how hard I try, it makes me think that maybe I was right to be put in special ed, that I really am an idiot, and that all my past accomplishments back when my grades were high were like, just handed to me and I didn't work for it. Hell, the last thing is true. Or how I have to get “extra time” on tests, which I'm almost always too proud to use because something just tells me that “normal people don't need this”. I feel like a defect.

特殊教育仍然会带来伤害……?就像，每当我考试不及格，或者无论我多么努力，在很多事情上我都不能拿到C以上时，我就觉得自己像个白痴，这让我觉得，也许我被安排在特殊教育中是对的，我真的是个白痴，以及当我的分数很高的时候，我过去所有的成就，都是自然而然的，而我并没有努力争取。见鬼，最后一件事是真的。或者我如何在考试中获得“附加时间”，我几乎总是太骄傲而不愿使用这些时间，因为有东西告诉我，“普通人不需要这些”。我觉得自己有缺陷。

I'm considering therapy once quarantine (its May of 2020 so yknow…covid) is over tbh. I bust my ass at tutoring only to never get anything back from it, I have a journal, I use Reflectly and CalmHarm, I've called the suicide hotline once and texted NYC Well way too many times, but I still waste tears thinking about how I'm a good for nothing sped kid. I don't think I'm *depressed*, but special education makes me feel… pretty awful.

我在考虑一旦隔离(是2020年5月，所以你知道的…新冠肺炎)结束就进行治疗。我拼命做家教，却从来没有得到过任何回报。我有一本期刊，我读《反思》(reflecting)和《冷静伤害》(CalmHarm)，我给自杀热线打过一次电话，给纽约市发过很多次短信，但我仍然浪费眼泪想我是一个什么都没有的孩子。我不认为我是“抑郁”，但特殊教育让我觉得……相当糟糕。

Veronica Smith
Fellow special needs student here.

这里的特殊需要学生。

I don’t feel “depressed” over having an IEP or having to miss out on classes like Spanish and gym for a special needs class.

我并不会因为个别化教育计画而感到“沮丧”，也不会因为特殊需求课程而错过西班牙语和体操课。

I actually think it's quite cool how there are 4+ people all sitting down together to talk about ME and what I NEED and stuff. It's like I'm famous or something lol.

我觉得有4个以上的人坐在一起讨论我和我需要的东西是很酷的。就好像我很出名一样，哈哈。

Now, as much as my special ed classes help me, and level the playing fields for me, I sometimes wish I wasn't in it.

现在，尽管我的特殊教育课程帮助了我，为我创造了公平的竞争环境，我有时还是希望自己不在其中。

It's not the teacher's fault, she is just doing her job, HER job IS TO MAKE ME WORK on things I'm BAD AT, in ORDER to STRENGTHEN them.

这不是老师的错，她只是在做她的工作，她的工作就是让我去做我不擅长的事情，以便加强它们。

I say this with everyone I meet for testing, it's not their fault, they are simply just doing their job. If anything they should be thanking me for being dyslexic, as well as other kids for having their disorders because if we didn't they wouldn’t have a job, LOL.

我对所有参加测试的人都这么说，这不是他们的错，他们只是在做自己的工作。如果有的话，他们应该感谢我有阅读障碍，以及其他孩子有他们的障碍，因为如果我们不是这样，他们就不会有工作，哈哈。

But, when all my friends and classmates get to go to Spanish class, or gym class, technology, health, etc, and have fun, while I just have to miss out on not just the education but the memories it makes me feel distant from everyone… it makes me feel different.

但是，当我所有的朋友和同学都可以去上西班牙语课、体育课、科技课、健康课等，享受乐趣的时候，我失去的就不仅仅是教育。但这些记忆让我觉得自己离所有人都很遥远……这让我感觉不一样。

I mean all I’ve ever wanted is to be normal and to be able to understand things the same way other kids do, and now I have to miss out on actual classes, games, and more because I'm behind, or because I need it in order to survive in school.

我的意思是，我一直想要成为一个正常人，能够像其他孩子一样理解事物，但现在我不得不错过真正的课堂、游戏，还有更多，因为我落后了，或者因为我需要这样才能在学校生存下去。

Kids always ask me what I do in special ed, just out of curiosity and when I tell them it makes me just feel stupid because they don't have to go there. They don’t need help with math, they don’t need help with decoding, and they most certainly don’t need help reading. It's embarrassing, y’know?

孩子们总是问我在特殊教育中做什么，只是出于好奇，当我告诉他们的时候，这让我觉得自己很蠢，因为他们根本没必要这么做。他们在数学上不需要帮助，他们在解题上不需要帮助，他们当然也不需要阅读帮助。这真尴尬,你懂吧?

Everyone from children to adults treats me like a child like I don’t understand anything simply because I have this big fat stack of paper that states I have this thing called dyslexia, and ADHD.

从小孩到大人，每个人都把我当小孩看待，就好像我什么都不懂，就因为我有一大摞纸，上面写着我患有阅读障碍和多动症。
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When people always underesitmate you and assume you need help with every little thing it really shatters your self-confidence.

当人们总是低估你，认为你在每一件小事上都需要帮助时，你的自信就会被击垮。

I appreciate the people who treat me like any other person, it makes me feel normal for a change instead of this helpless rat on the streets or something.

我很感激那些像对待其他人一样对待我的人，这让我觉得自己是正常的，而不是一个无助的街头老鼠什么的。
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And if I need help I’ll ask, simple as that.

如果我需要帮助，我会问的，就这么简单。

Obviously, sometimes people don’t like to ask for help all the time, and trust me sometimes I feel embarrassed asking for help in front of everyone, I just wish people wouldn’t automatically assume people with IEPs or disorders needed help. At least stop asking so much.

显然，有时人们不喜欢总是寻求帮助，相信我，有时我觉得在所有人面前寻求帮助很尴尬，我只是希望人们不要自动地认为接受个别化教育计画的人或有障碍的人需要帮助。
至少别问太多。
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And I get it, I really do. You’re just trying to make sure I’m okay, and that I understand because you aren’t in my head and you don’t know what I personally struggle with and stuff, and for that, I appreciate you for at least trying to understand, and trying to help me.

我理解，真的。你只是想确保我没事，我能理解因为你不在我脑子里你不知道我个人在挣扎什么，为此，我很感激你至少试着理解我，试着帮我。

All I ask, from anyone really, kid or adult, disabled or not disabled, is just to not immediately assume people with learning disorders, or any disorder really, that we need help. It's okay to ask once in a great while, just to check in, but every 5 minutes is just too much.

我对所有人的要求，不管是孩子还是成年人，残疾还是健全人，就是不要想当然地认为有学习障碍的人，或者任何障碍的人需要帮助。

(I am not trying to speak for everyone with disorders, so it's important you learn about someone's disorder before taking care of them, etc.)

(我并不是在为所有有障碍的人说话，所以在照顾他们之前了解他们的障碍是很重要的。)

Hope this helps.

希望这有帮助

And as always this is your dyslexic Quoran,

和往常一样，这是你的诵读困难者的quora，

You ask I’ll… Hopefully, answer

你提问，我将…希望，回答

Stay you,

做自己

~ Veronica Smith
Robert Martin
I would disagree that most students in special education feel depressed based on 36 years-experience working with special needs people. However, people with learning disabilities appear to have higher rates of depression but when it comes to severe depression their rate is no higher than non-special education students.

我不同意大多数接受特殊教育的学生因为36年与特殊需要的人一起工作的经验而感到抑郁。然而，有学习障碍的人似乎有更高的抑郁率，但当谈到严重抑郁时，他们的比率并不比非特殊教育的学生高。

LD students may have more depression because they have low achievement in at least one area as compared to their ability. Research has reported a rate of 2% depression in non-special education people as compared to 5-20% among people who have learning disabilities in some research. This is way higher but is contested as not accurate by the research specialist who has looked over the research on this subject of a lix I’ve attached below. It certainly is not most as your question states. People are complicated, and research is frequently not representative or accurate beyond a limited test group upon which the research is based.

学习障碍（LD）学生可能更容易抑郁，因为他们在至少一个领域的成就低于他们的能力。研究表明，在一些研究中，接受过非特殊教育的人患抑郁症的比例为2%，而有学习障碍的人患抑郁症的比例为5-20%。这个数字要高得多，但是研究专家认为这个数字不够准确，因为他看过我下面所附的一个链接。然不像你的问题所说的那样。人是复杂的，研究往往不具有代表性或准确性，超出了研究所基于的有限测试组。
（译注：原文下附了《研究结果:学习障碍儿童的抑郁》的链接）
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Some LD students may experience more depression especially at the higher grades versus the elementary level due to teasing or feeling different or not being able to function as well as some of their peers. I personally have not seen a rate higher among special education people as compared to their non-special education peers in my teaching experience. Especially in adolescence there are many turbulent emotions and change at work to make one feel things are worse than they are. I think if you had a chance to see lots of students over time as I have you would not see that much difference between special education and non-special education peers, but it’s complicated. It might vary according to sex like for instance there are more males who have LD, and behavioral issues. It might vary according to grade or even disability. Special education has a huge range of classifications within special education, but I hear what you are saying. It seems to be true in your school.

一些学习障碍学生可能会经历更多的抑郁，特别是在高年级，因为戏弄或感觉不同或不能像他们的一些同龄人一样工作。就我个人而言，在我的教学经历中，我从未见过接受特殊教育的人的抑郁比率比接受非特殊教育的同龄人高。特别是在青春期，会有很多动荡的情绪和变化，让人觉得事情比实际情况更糟。我想，如果你有机会像我一样看到很多学生，你不会发现接受特殊教育和接受非特殊教育的同龄人之间有太大的区别，但这很复杂。它可能因性别而异比如有更多的男性有学习障碍和行为问题。特殊教育在特殊教育中有很大的分类范围，但是我听到你所说的。在你们学校似乎是真的这样

Tyrelle Frazier
I’ll tell you why! Because when I was in the 4th grade,I automatically am being singled out at a young age to the point where I couldn’t be with my “regular friends” or “normal folk”. The regular Ed hallway is on THIS SIDE of the school, but the special Ed classes are ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE of the school making me feel more antisocial and more depressed because I have to go to a different type of class (but all of my regular ed friends can be together in their own classes). Being in SE at a young age and having a comprehension disability has made me “put up walls” “shut down” “feeling detached from my regular ed counterparts” ONTOP of bullying and nights of crying ( my first real test with depression was in 2016). Fast forward to now, I’m back in regular Ed and have been since 7th grade. I took some honors courses and I graduate from HS this June! (class of 2021)

我来告诉你为什么!因为当我在四年级的时候，我就自动地被挑出来了，以至于我不能和我的“普通朋友”或“正常的人”在一起。普通教育走廊在学校的这一边，但是特殊的教育课在学校的另一边，让我觉得更不合群，更沮丧，因为我要去上不同类型的课（但我在普通教育的朋友可以一起在自己的班级）。我在很小的时候就住在东南地区，并且有理解力障碍，这让我“筑起了高墙”，“自我封闭”，“感觉与我的普通教育伙伴疏远了”，除了受欺负和晚上的哭泣(我第一次真正的抑郁症测试是在2016年)。快进到现在，我回到了普通的教育，从7年级开始。我修了一些优异课程，今年6月从高中毕业!(2021级)

Kyrani Eade
I agree both with Rachel Grewell and with Michael Miserocchi answers.

我同意Rachel Grewell和Michael missocchi的答案。

I would only add that there are teachers and there are teachers!

我只想补充一点，这里有老师，这里有老师!

I knew one woman, who was is a special ed teacher, and she is inhumane, whether we call her a psychopath or a narcissist or whatever. I remember she got a lot of pleasure exploiting and hurting others around her and that included her own son. And for a long while she seemed okay. But of course these people are always masked so it takes time to see them for who they are.

我认识一个女人，她是一个特殊教育老师，她是不人道的，不管我们叫她精神病患者还是自恋者或其他什么。我记得她通过剥削和伤害周围的人获得了很多快乐，包括她自己的儿子。很长一段时间她看起来还好。当然，这些人总是戴着面具，所以需要时间才能看清他们到底是谁。

I don’t think she should have ever qualified to work as a teacher, let alone special ed where there are kids that can be easily hurt or hurting already. Any child that is hassled by a teacher, who does it in an underhanded manner, will get depressed. It is only natural. Hopefully she is one of a small minority. But it can explain why the child is depressed and others looking on from the outside can’t see why the child is depressed.

我认为她不应该有资格当老师，更不用说是特殊教育，那里的孩子很容易受到伤害或已经受到伤害。任何被老师以不光彩的方式骚扰的孩子都会感到沮丧。这是很自然的。希望她是少数人中的一员。但它可以解释为什么孩子会抑郁，而其他人从外部看不出为什么孩子会抑郁。

Rachel Grewell
I think that’s because students in Special Ed. feel singled out by the fact that they have special needs. And let’s face it kids are mean. As a teacher I’ve seen many “regular” ed. students pick on kids they perceive as weaker than them. Just because students have special learning needs doesn’t mean they don’t have feelings. And a lot of kids in general feel more depressed these days. Schools say they are bully free zones but kids know how to get around that and some of the biggest bullies I’ve seen in schools stand at the front of their classroom or behind the principal ‘s door.

我想那是因为特殊教育学院的学生。因为他们有特殊需求而感到被孤立。让我们面对现实吧，孩子们意义重大。作为一名教师，我看到过许多“普通”学生欺负那些他们认为比自己弱的孩子。仅仅因为学生有特殊的学习需求并不意味着他们没有感情。现在很多孩子普遍感到更加沮丧。学校说他们是无霸凌区，但孩子们知道该怎么做，我在学校里见过的一些最厉害的霸凌者就站在教室前面或校长的门后面。

Karen McKearn
I read the three answers by the other responders and they all gave very good answers even though they were different. I don’t think I could add much more. My two kids were in special education, but they weren’t depressed because they were in it. Some kids may suffer from actual depression and take medicine for it, but not depressed/ sad because they have to receive services. That’s a a big difference. It is hard to answer such a gerneric question to cover millions of different students.

我读了其他回答者的三个答案，尽管不同，他们都给出了很好的答案。我不认为我可以补充更多了。我的两个孩子在接受特殊教育，但他们并不抑郁，因为他们在接受特殊教育。有些孩子可能患有真正的抑郁症，并服用药物治疗，但并不抑郁/悲伤，因为他们必须接受服务。这是一个很大的区别。要回答这样一个普普通通的问题，要涵盖数百万不同的学生是很难的。

Leanne Strong
I have Asperger’s, and I cannot answer for most special education students, because it is different for each and every student who receives those services. Some students might feel depressed because they do not feel challenged enough by the lessons that are being taught, or the way the lessons are being taught to them. This is especially true for students who, in addition to having a disability, are also intellectually or academically gifted. This is known as twice exceptionality. From what I have heard, not much is known about these students.

我有阿斯伯格症，我不能回答大多数接受特殊教育的学生，因为接受这些服务的每个学生都是不同的。一些学生可能会感到沮丧，因为他们觉得课程的挑战性不够，或者由于课程的教学方式。对于那些除了有残疾之外，在智力或学业上也有天赋的学生来说，情况尤其如此。这被称为twice exceptionality。据我所知，对这些学生的了解并不多。
（译注：twice exceptionality，缩写为“2e”，指的是有某种残疾的天才学生）

Mary Last
Because it is subconsciously a constant reminder that “I am here because I can not do what most kids can: something must be wrong with me.” when the sp ed student's weakness is more emphasis and focuse on than his/her strength……but, questioning one's disposition of inadequate is a sign of intelligent: evidence self-awareness which is the first towards self improvement and regulation.

因为它在潜意识里不断提醒我，“我在这里是因为我做不到大多数孩子能做的: 我一定是有什么问题。” 当特殊教育学生的缺陷相对于优势被更多的强调和关注时……但是，怀疑自己的性格不合适是聪明的一种表现: 首先是自我意识的提升和调节。

Some Sp Ed classroom (learning environment) can be depressing even among school staffs and others…. (I took mine out.)

一些特殊教育教室(学习环境)可能是令人沮丧的，甚至在学校职员和其他人之间……（以我的经验而言）

Kammy Chinnock
Both of my children were in special ed. They were not depressed about being in special ed. We had talked about it and they understood that they just needed more help than others did.

我的两个孩子都在接受特殊教育。他们并不因为接受特殊教育而沮丧。我们讨论过这个问题，他们明白他们只是比别人需要更多的帮助。

What got my daughter depressed was when the “normal” kids were treat her badly. She wanted so much to fit in, she wanted to be just like them, and they shunned her.

让我女儿沮丧的是那些“正常”的孩子对她很不好。她非常想融入，她想成为他们那样，但他们却躲着她。

So, it isn’t how they feel about being in Special Ed. it is how other people treat them for being in Special Ed.

所以，这不是他们在特殊教育学校的感受。而是其他人如何对待他们，因为他们在接受特殊教育。

Michael Miserocchi
Hi Marilyn, I believe that there is a stigma that has been placed on special education students for decades. Any kid in the world just wants to fit in and not be in a 'special class' most kids just want to feel normal, liked by their peers, and not necessarily be put in a 'special ed' class. Whether you're a genius or if you have a hard time grasping subjects, we're all people, wanting to be loved and accepted for who we are.

你好，Marilyn，我相信几十年来特殊教育的学生一直背负着污名。世界上任何一个孩子都只是想融入，而不是进入“特殊班级”。大多数孩子只是想感觉自己很正常，被同龄人喜欢，而不一定是被分到“特殊教育”班级。无论你是一个天才，还是你很难掌握学科，我们都是人，希望被爱和被接受。

Jon T. Landerman
Im not sure that they do. Very few of my students do…and when they do, it’s certainly not because they are in Special Education.

我不确定他们沮丧。我的学生中很少有人这样……当他们这样沮丧的时候，当然不是因为他们在接受特殊教育。