军坛讨论：印度的布拉莫斯导弹是目前世界上最致命的现役导弹？
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So one of my Indian friends mentioned today that India's BrahMos missile is the world's deadliest missile in service now: not only it could not be stopped by any air defense system in service due to its supersonic speed but it has no similar comparable counterparts in countries like USA and China's inventory.
所以我的一个印度朋友今天提到，印度的布拉莫斯导弹是目前世界上最致命的现役导弹：由于其超音速，它不仅无法被任何现役防空系统阻止，而且在美国和中国等国家的库存中也没有类似的同类导弹。
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So one of my Indian friends mentioned today that India's BrahMos missile is the world's deadliest missile in service now: not only it could not be stopped by any air defense system in service due to its supersonic speed but it has no similar comparable counterparts in countries like USA and China's inventory.
所以我的一个印度朋友今天提到，印度的布拉莫斯导弹是目前世界上最致命的现役导弹：由于其超音速，它不仅无法被任何现役防空系统阻止，而且在美国和中国等国家的库存中也没有类似的同类导弹。
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So, my question what is BrahMos missile, which category it falls to and if my friend's statement is true what makes it so unique that even USA can't make it? I did some quick searches on my phone but almost all the results are from India media, not saying they are not credible, just want to hear some third-party comments on it.
所以，我的问题是：布拉莫斯导弹是什么？它属于哪一类？如果我朋友的说法是真的，是什么使得它如此独特，连美国都造不出来? 我用手机快速搜索了一下，但几乎所有的结果都来自印度媒体，我不是说它们不可信，只是想听听第三方的评论。
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所以，我的问题是：布拉莫斯导弹是什么？它属于哪一类？如果我朋友的说法是真的，是什么使得它如此独特，连美国都造不出来? 我用手机快速搜索了一下，但几乎所有的结果都来自印度媒体，我不是说它们不可信，只是想听听第三方的评论。
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kazakov166
Indians are proud of Brahmos because it’s a domestic supersonic (bordering hypersonic) missile that outperforms everything that Pakistan has. Apparently due to its domestic nature it’s a pride thing that proves that India has the expertise to build such Ashms.
印度人对布拉莫斯感到自豪，因为它是一种国产超音速导弹（临近超高音速导弹），性能超过巴基斯坦所有的导弹。显然，由于其国产性质，这是一件骄傲的事情，证明印度有建造这种反舰导弹的专业知识。
Indians are proud of Brahmos because it’s a domestic supersonic (bordering hypersonic) missile that outperforms everything that Pakistan has. Apparently due to its domestic nature it’s a pride thing that proves that India has the expertise to build such Ashms.
印度人对布拉莫斯感到自豪，因为它是一种国产超音速导弹（临近超高音速导弹），性能超过巴基斯坦所有的导弹。显然，由于其国产性质，这是一件骄傲的事情，证明印度有建造这种反舰导弹的专业知识。
Downsides include: it’s massive (modified flankers can only carry 1), unreliable and inaccurate.
缺点包括：体积庞大(改装后的侧卫只能携带1枚)，不可靠且不准确。
缺点包括：体积庞大(改装后的侧卫只能携带1枚)，不可靠且不准确。
khee-khe-khee
Huh unreliable and inaccurate? There are literal videos of brahmos hitting the target with accuracy
哈？不可靠且不准确？有视频显示布拉莫斯导弹准确击中了目标。
Huh unreliable and inaccurate? There are literal videos of brahmos hitting the target with accuracy
哈？不可靠且不准确？有视频显示布拉莫斯导弹准确击中了目标。
kazakov166
There are also videos showing JF-17s destroying a roughly Rafael shaped target
也有视频显示JF-17摧毁了一个大约是阵风形状的目标。
There are also videos showing JF-17s destroying a roughly Rafael shaped target
也有视频显示JF-17摧毁了一个大约是阵风形状的目标。
khee-khe-khee
Not really if anything Jeffs were struggling to make a video for their bvr launch
并没有，如果有什么不同的话，那就是JF的吹鼓手们曾努力为他们的超视距导弹制作视频。
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Not really if anything Jeffs were struggling to make a video for their bvr launch
并没有，如果有什么不同的话，那就是JF的吹鼓手们曾努力为他们的超视距导弹制作视频。
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Anyways why do you say its inaccurate, I hope you have something better than russian tech bad
不管怎样，为什么你说它不准确，我希望你除了“俄罗斯技术差劲”还有更好的证据。
不管怎样，为什么你说它不准确，我希望你除了“俄罗斯技术差劲”还有更好的证据。
kazakov166
Generally, hypersonic missiles are pretty inaccurate due to the physics of air as it approaches hypersonic speeds. So far no country has reliably solved that problem. I admit I’m not familiar with how the Brahmos missile approached its target but any missile that claims to be hypersonic (including Kinzhal and YJ-21) are generally assumed to be inaccurate.
一般来说，由于空气的物理特性，高超音速导弹在接近高超音速时是相当不准确的。到目前为止，还没有一个国家可靠地解决了这个问题。我承认我不熟悉布拉莫斯导弹在接近目标的时候表现如何，但任何声称是高超音速的导弹(包括匕首和鹰击-21)通常都被认为是不准确的。
Generally, hypersonic missiles are pretty inaccurate due to the physics of air as it approaches hypersonic speeds. So far no country has reliably solved that problem. I admit I’m not familiar with how the Brahmos missile approached its target but any missile that claims to be hypersonic (including Kinzhal and YJ-21) are generally assumed to be inaccurate.
一般来说，由于空气的物理特性，高超音速导弹在接近高超音速时是相当不准确的。到目前为止，还没有一个国家可靠地解决了这个问题。我承认我不熟悉布拉莫斯导弹在接近目标的时候表现如何，但任何声称是高超音速的导弹(包括匕首和鹰击-21)通常都被认为是不准确的。
khee-khe-khee
Fair enough, as far as I know Brahmos max speed is Mach 3, calling it hypersonic is a stretch and that too only at its terminal phase
很公平，据我所知，布拉莫斯的最大速度是3马赫，称其为高超音速有点过了，而这也只是在其末端阶段。
Fair enough, as far as I know Brahmos max speed is Mach 3, calling it hypersonic is a stretch and that too only at its terminal phase
很公平，据我所知，布拉莫斯的最大速度是3马赫，称其为高超音速有点过了，而这也只是在其末端阶段。
krakenchaos1
Generally, hypersonic missiles are pretty inaccurate due to the physics of air as it approaches hypersonic speeds
I've seen variations of this stated a lot as accepted fact, but are there any good technical sources that explain the science behind it?
我看到过很多这种说法的衍生版，作为公认的事实，但有没有好的技术来源来解释它背后的科学?
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Generally, hypersonic missiles are pretty inaccurate due to the physics of air as it approaches hypersonic speeds
I've seen variations of this stated a lot as accepted fact, but are there any good technical sources that explain the science behind it?
我看到过很多这种说法的衍生版，作为公认的事实，但有没有好的技术来源来解释它背后的科学?
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kazakov166
the simplified version (and possibly wrong) is that at hypersonic speeds air starts behaving like a liquid. As the missile descends towards the target the air also becomes thicker and hotter making maneuvering extremely hard.
简化的版本(可能是错误的)是，在高超音速下，空气开始表现得像液体。当导弹向目标下降时，空气也变得更密、更热，使机动变得极其困难。
the simplified version (and possibly wrong) is that at hypersonic speeds air starts behaving like a liquid. As the missile descends towards the target the air also becomes thicker and hotter making maneuvering extremely hard.
简化的版本(可能是错误的)是，在高超音速下，空气开始表现得像液体。当导弹向目标下降时，空气也变得更密、更热，使机动变得极其困难。
Also sensors don’t function that well when exposed to hypersonic air friction.
此外，当暴露于高超音速的空气摩擦中，传感器的功能也不那么好。
此外，当暴露于高超音速的空气摩擦中，传感器的功能也不那么好。
salientsapient
If you give me a couple of hours worth of attempts, I can give you a literal video of me throwing a perfect basket from all the way across the basketball court.
如果你让我试几个小时，我可以给你一段真实的视频，证明我可以在篮球场的另一边投出一个完美的投篮。
If you give me a couple of hours worth of attempts, I can give you a literal video of me throwing a perfect basket from all the way across the basketball court.
如果你让我试几个小时，我可以给你一段真实的视频，证明我可以在篮球场的另一边投出一个完美的投篮。
khee-khe-khee
Millions of dollars wasted over some video for who exactly? These missile aint cheap and nobody is putting weapons on their ships they cant trust
将数百万美元浪费在一段视频上，到底是为了谁? 这些导弹不便宜，没有人把不信任的武器放在他们的舰艇上。
Millions of dollars wasted over some video for who exactly? These missile aint cheap and nobody is putting weapons on their ships they cant trust
将数百万美元浪费在一段视频上，到底是为了谁? 这些导弹不便宜，没有人把不信任的武器放在他们的舰艇上。
Besides its being exported too, you are claiming its inaccurate, whats your proof, at least I have literal videos to say its accurate
除此之外，它也被出口了，你说它不准，你有什么证据，至少我有实打实的视频证明它很准。
除此之外，它也被出口了，你说它不准，你有什么证据，至少我有实打实的视频证明它很准。
Key_Agent_3039
Brahmos is a joint venture between India-Russia, based on the P-800 Onyx. Now, India can mostly domestically produce Brahmos so that is something to be proud of, but calling it domestic is still inaccurate
布拉莫斯是印俄合作的装备，以P-800红宝石导弹为基础。现在，印度基本上可以在国内生产布拉莫斯导弹，这是值得骄傲的事情，但称之为国产仍然是不准确的。
Brahmos is a joint venture between India-Russia, based on the P-800 Onyx. Now, India can mostly domestically produce Brahmos so that is something to be proud of, but calling it domestic is still inaccurate
布拉莫斯是印俄合作的装备，以P-800红宝石导弹为基础。现在，印度基本上可以在国内生产布拉莫斯导弹，这是值得骄傲的事情，但称之为国产仍然是不准确的。
Pakistan has YJ-12s on their Type054AP frigates which are more or less comparable to Brahmos
巴基斯坦的054AP型护卫舰上有鹰击-12，或多或少可以与布拉莫斯相媲美。
巴基斯坦的054AP型护卫舰上有鹰击-12，或多或少可以与布拉莫斯相媲美。
kazakov166
Indian nationalism being what it is these are very small inconveniences that can be easily ignored
印度民族主义就是这样，这些都是很小的不便之处，很容易被无视。
Indian nationalism being what it is these are very small inconveniences that can be easily ignored
印度民族主义就是这样，这些都是很小的不便之处，很容易被无视。
Wil420b
It's not really domestic as it's based on a Russian missile that has been around for decades. It can also be launched by ground TELs, ships and submarines.
它并不是真正的国产导弹，因为它是基于一种已经存在了几十年的俄罗斯导弹。它也可以由陆基发射车、舰艇和潜艇发射。
It's not really domestic as it's based on a Russian missile that has been around for decades. It can also be launched by ground TELs, ships and submarines.
它并不是真正的国产导弹，因为它是基于一种已经存在了几十年的俄罗斯导弹。它也可以由陆基发射车、舰艇和潜艇发射。
It can also almost certainly be intercepted by earlier generation '90s era Patriots. Based on them, being able to intercept "Mach 10" Kimzhal missiles. Pakistan may not have any Patriots but it has recently acquired Chinese HQ-9s. Which may well be able to intercept them. Primarily depending on the range, altitude and topography.
几乎可以肯定，它也可以被90年代早期的爱国者拦截。因为它的原体“10马赫”的金扎尔导弹可以被拦截。巴基斯坦可能没有爱国者，但它最近获得了中国的红旗-9。也许能拦截它们。主要取决于范围，海拔和地形。
几乎可以肯定，它也可以被90年代早期的爱国者拦截。因为它的原体“10马赫”的金扎尔导弹可以被拦截。巴基斯坦可能没有爱国者，但它最近获得了中国的红旗-9。也许能拦截它们。主要取决于范围，海拔和地形。
Julian3333333
Lol at this moment, Brahmos is still over 50% Russian.
哈哈，此时此刻，布拉莫斯的俄罗斯血统依然超过50%。
Lol at this moment, Brahmos is still over 50% Russian.
哈哈，此时此刻，布拉莫斯的俄罗斯血统依然超过50%。
khee-khe-khee
Brahmos isnt some wanderwuffen weapon, its just different approach to what west AShM prefer ( Anti Ship Missile )
布拉莫斯不是什么神奇武器，只是它的技术路线与西方反舰导弹更喜欢的方式不同。
Brahmos isnt some wanderwuffen weapon, its just different approach to what west AShM prefer ( Anti Ship Missile )
布拉莫斯不是什么神奇武器，只是它的技术路线与西方反舰导弹更喜欢的方式不同。
West approach was to fly low and slow, avoid detection to avoid self defense suite of ship where as soviet approach was to fly fast to dodge a ships self defenses
西方的方法是低而慢地飞行，避免被发现，以避开舰艇的自卫套件，而苏联的方法是快速飞行，以躲避舰艇的自卫套件。
西方的方法是低而慢地飞行，避免被发现，以避开舰艇的自卫套件，而苏联的方法是快速飞行，以躲避舰艇的自卫套件。
Both of them have their own pros and cons
两者都有各自的优点和缺点。
两者都有各自的优点和缺点。
For more info watch this documentary
https://youtu.be/ZhY-QLPt0f0?feature=shared
欲了解更多信息，请观看这部纪录片。
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https://youtu.be/ZhY-QLPt0f0?feature=shared
欲了解更多信息，请观看这部纪录片。
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sunoval2017
Wow, more than 2 hrs, that seems to be a well researched documentary. Thanks for the comments and recommendation, will check it out.
哇，2个多小时，这似乎是一部研究得很好的纪录片。谢谢你的评论和推荐，我会去看看的。
Wow, more than 2 hrs, that seems to be a well researched documentary. Thanks for the comments and recommendation, will check it out.
哇，2个多小时，这似乎是一部研究得很好的纪录片。谢谢你的评论和推荐，我会去看看的。
Cidician
China have anti ship ballistic missiles that fly faster and further.
中国的反舰弹道导弹飞得更快更远。
China have anti ship ballistic missiles that fly faster and further.
中国的反舰弹道导弹飞得更快更远。
Dohatarafdardiscord
Your friend is DEAD wrong.
你朋友大错特错。
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Your friend is DEAD wrong.
你朋友大错特错。
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"BrahMos missile is the world's deadliest missile in service now" Since it just says "missile" and not "cruise missile", I could 20 different systems that can be considered more "deadly". From SRBM-ICBM.
“布拉莫斯导弹是目前世界上最致命的现役导弹”，因为上面只说了“导弹”，而不是“巡航导弹”，我可以想到20种不同的系统，可以被认为是更“致命”。从SRBM（短程弹道导弹）-ICBM（洲际弹道导弹）。
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“布拉莫斯导弹是目前世界上最致命的现役导弹”，因为上面只说了“导弹”，而不是“巡航导弹”，我可以想到20种不同的系统，可以被认为是更“致命”。从SRBM（短程弹道导弹）-ICBM（洲际弹道导弹）。
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"it could not be stopped by any air defense system" - he couldn't be more wrong. SM-2, SM-6, and ESSM (all part of the AEGIS system) regularly intercepts GQM 163A Coyote. Which is a highly maneuverable Mach 4 Supersonic cruise missile target. Brahmos can definitely be intercepted, sure it'll be more difficult to do so compared to a Harpoon, but it is no where near being immune to air defense.
“任何防空系统都无法阻止它”——他大错特错。SM-2、SM-6和ESSM(都是宙斯盾系统的组成部分)时常拦截GQM 163A郊狼导弹。这是一种高度机动的4马赫超音速巡航靶弹。布拉莫斯绝对可以被拦截，当然它比鱼叉更难拦截，但它远不能对防空系统免疫。
“任何防空系统都无法阻止它”——他大错特错。SM-2、SM-6和ESSM(都是宙斯盾系统的组成部分)时常拦截GQM 163A郊狼导弹。这是一种高度机动的4马赫超音速巡航靶弹。布拉莫斯绝对可以被拦截，当然它比鱼叉更难拦截，但它远不能对防空系统免疫。
"it has no similar comparable counterparts in countries like USA and China's inventory." US is more focused on Low Observable ASHM's and ALCM's such as JASSM and LRASM.
“在美国和中国等国家的库存中没有类似的可与之比拟的产品。”美国更关注低可观测的ASHM和ALCM，如JASSM和LRASM。
“在美国和中国等国家的库存中没有类似的可与之比拟的产品。”美国更关注低可观测的ASHM和ALCM，如JASSM和LRASM。
China on the other hand does have missile (YJ-12, CJ/DF-100, etc) that is comparable to brahmos.
另一方面，中国确实拥有与布拉莫斯相媲美的导弹(鹰击-12、CJ/东风-100等)。
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另一方面，中国确实拥有与布拉莫斯相媲美的导弹(鹰击-12、CJ/东风-100等)。
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sunoval2017
thanks for the detailed response. these are many acronyms for me to search for.
感谢您的详细回复。有很多首字母缩略词，我需要搜索一下才懂。
thanks for the detailed response. these are many acronyms for me to search for.
感谢您的详细回复。有很多首字母缩略词，我需要搜索一下才懂。
Nukem_extracrispy
Here's what your response should be:
你应该这样回答:
Here's what your response should be:
你应该这样回答:
Deadliest missile?
How many people has it killed so far?
“最致命的导弹?
到目前为止，它已经杀死了多少人?”
How many people has it killed so far?
“最致命的导弹?
到目前为止，它已经杀死了多少人?”
Wil420b
Layer Harpoons are pretty stealthy and usually fly at wave top level. Meaning that they're undectable from sea level up until about 11NM from the target. Giving the ship a little over a minute to prepare.
鱼叉是非常隐蔽的，通常在波浪顶部飞行。这意味着在距离目标11海里之前，它们在海平面上是探测不到的。舰艇只剩下一分钟多一点的准备时间。
Layer Harpoons are pretty stealthy and usually fly at wave top level. Meaning that they're undectable from sea level up until about 11NM from the target. Giving the ship a little over a minute to prepare.
鱼叉是非常隐蔽的，通常在波浪顶部飞行。这意味着在距离目标11海里之前，它们在海平面上是探测不到的。舰艇只剩下一分钟多一点的准备时间。
BornAgainJasonBourne
BrahMos is basically p-800 oinks but faster. As an anti-ship sea skimmer its a viable product (provided its targeting and electronics works). As a land target its a waste to pay for both a booster and ramjet for 300kg over 500km, just use normal solid rocket missiles instead.
布拉莫斯导弹基本上是p-800，但速度更快。作为一种反舰掠海导弹，它是一种可行的产品(前提是它的瞄准和电子系统管用)。至于陆地目标，采用这种300公斤的助推器、射程超过500公里的冲压发动机的导弹是一种浪费，使用普通的固体火箭导弹就可以了。
BrahMos is basically p-800 oinks but faster. As an anti-ship sea skimmer its a viable product (provided its targeting and electronics works). As a land target its a waste to pay for both a booster and ramjet for 300kg over 500km, just use normal solid rocket missiles instead.
布拉莫斯导弹基本上是p-800，但速度更快。作为一种反舰掠海导弹，它是一种可行的产品(前提是它的瞄准和电子系统管用)。至于陆地目标，采用这种300公斤的助推器、射程超过500公里的冲压发动机的导弹是一种浪费，使用普通的固体火箭导弹就可以了。
Most countries dont concentrate on the speed of the missile past a certain point and instead focuses on electronics and targeting to make sure they hit what they are suppose to hit, especially if its a moving target.
大多数国家不关注导弹经过某一点的速度，而是关注电子设备和瞄准，以确保它们击中应该击中的目标，特别是如果对方是移动目标。
大多数国家不关注导弹经过某一点的速度，而是关注电子设备和瞄准，以确保它们击中应该击中的目标，特别是如果对方是移动目标。
In terms of ramjet technology, the way forward seems to be integrated booster/jet system. China has YJ-12, Europeans have Meteor. In that regard BrahMos is behind.
就冲压发动机技术而言，未来的发展方向似乎是集成助推器/喷气系统。中国有鹰击-12，欧洲有流星。在这方面，布拉莫斯是落后的。
就冲压发动机技术而言，未来的发展方向似乎是集成助推器/喷气系统。中国有鹰击-12，欧洲有流星。在这方面，布拉莫斯是落后的。
Neat_Passion_6767
It's compared to YJ-12(CM-302) or the 3M80(P-270). But Russia and China both moved on to hypersonic missiles now (such as YJ-21). To compare:
它可以与鹰击-12(CM-302)或3M80(P-270)相比拟。但是俄罗斯和中国现在都转向了高超音速导弹(比如鹰击-21)。为了比较:
It's compared to YJ-12(CM-302) or the 3M80(P-270). But Russia and China both moved on to hypersonic missiles now (such as YJ-21). To compare:
它可以与鹰击-12(CM-302)或3M80(P-270)相比拟。但是俄罗斯和中国现在都转向了高超音速导弹(比如鹰击-21)。为了比较:
YJ-12, range 400 km, cruise speed 2 mach, terminal speed 4 mach
鹰击-12，射程400公里，巡航速度2马赫，终端速度4马赫；
鹰击-12，射程400公里，巡航速度2马赫，终端速度4马赫；
YJ-21, range 1000 km, cruise speed 6 mach, terminal speed 10 mach
鹰击-21，射程1000公里，巡航速度6马赫，末速10马赫。
鹰击-21，射程1000公里，巡航速度6马赫，末速10马赫。
Range may vary depending on the version
射程根据版本不同可能迥异。
射程根据版本不同可能迥异。
arandomperson1234
China has hypersonics (DF-17), but I think YJ-21 is just a ballistic missile. It travels at hypersonic speeds, but most long-ranged ballistic missiles also do that. The gimmick is that it can be fired from a ship and that it has terminal sensors.
中国有高超音速导弹(东风-17)，但我认为鹰击-21只是一种弹道导弹。它以高超音速飞行，但大多数远程弹道导弹也能做到这一点。它的噱头是它可以从船上发射，并且有终端传感器。
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China has hypersonics (DF-17), but I think YJ-21 is just a ballistic missile. It travels at hypersonic speeds, but most long-ranged ballistic missiles also do that. The gimmick is that it can be fired from a ship and that it has terminal sensors.
中国有高超音速导弹(东风-17)，但我认为鹰击-21只是一种弹道导弹。它以高超音速飞行，但大多数远程弹道导弹也能做到这一点。它的噱头是它可以从船上发射，并且有终端传感器。
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Neat_Passion_6767
It is anti-ship, so in the final stage the missile head must have much better lateral movement capability than a traditional ballistic missile. The same capability can be used to change its track unpredictably(corkscrew turn etc). This is the newer gen anti-ship missiles Russia/China were working toward.
它是反舰的，所以在最后阶段，相比传统的弹道导弹，导弹头必须有更好的横向移动能力。同样的能力可以用来改变其轨道，使其不可预测(螺旋转弯等)。这是俄罗斯和中国正在研发的新一代反舰导弹。
It is anti-ship, so in the final stage the missile head must have much better lateral movement capability than a traditional ballistic missile. The same capability can be used to change its track unpredictably(corkscrew turn etc). This is the newer gen anti-ship missiles Russia/China were working toward.
它是反舰的，所以在最后阶段，相比传统的弹道导弹，导弹头必须有更好的横向移动能力。同样的能力可以用来改变其轨道，使其不可预测(螺旋转弯等)。这是俄罗斯和中国正在研发的新一代反舰导弹。
After YJ-12 and YJ-18, the sea skimmer type seems to have reached a dead-end.
在鹰击-12和鹰击-18之后，掠海型似乎已经到了一个死胡同。
在鹰击-12和鹰击-18之后，掠海型似乎已经到了一个死胡同。
Cornflake0305
Brah, mostly I think it's just hyperbole.
兄弟，我觉得你多半是在夸大其词。
Brah, mostly I think it's just hyperbole.
兄弟，我觉得你多半是在夸大其词。
IlluminatedPickle
OP, your first mistake was listening to an Indian about something that sounds good about India. Indians are by and large, super patriotic. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes them very susceptible to both hyperbole and propaganda.
OP，你的第一个错误是听了一个印度人说了关于印度的一些听起来不错的东西。总的来说，印度人是超级爱国的。这未必是件坏事，但这让他们很容易受到夸张和宣传的影响。
OP, your first mistake was listening to an Indian about something that sounds good about India. Indians are by and large, super patriotic. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it makes them very susceptible to both hyperbole and propaganda.
OP，你的第一个错误是听了一个印度人说了关于印度的一些听起来不错的东西。总的来说，印度人是超级爱国的。这未必是件坏事，但这让他们很容易受到夸张和宣传的影响。
BrahMos is an interesting weapon, especially for the Indians to have developed (in concert with Russia), but it's not exactly groundbreaking.
布拉莫斯是一种有趣的武器，尤其是对印度人来说(与俄罗斯合作)，但它并不是突破性的。
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布拉莫斯是一种有趣的武器，尤其是对印度人来说(与俄罗斯合作)，但它并不是突破性的。
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tujuggernaut
could not be stopped by any air defense system in service due to its supersonic speed
“由于它的超音速，任何现役防空系统都不能阻挡它。”
could not be stopped by any air defense system in service due to its supersonic speed
“由于它的超音速，任何现役防空系统都不能阻挡它。”
So first off, that is super sonic, not hypersonic. There is a BrahMos II that is boosted to Mach7-8 (hypersonic region) but the normal version is max Mach 3 and pretty sure it's not hitting Mach 3 in level flight at low altitude. The reported mach 3 was in a dive from an at-altitude release. For things that are supersonic, many air defense systems have a decent chance of interception, including the latest S300/400 and pretty much every medium or theatre western system. Fighters have the same speed and in many cases more maneuverability but they are vulnerable to all of these systems.
首先，它是超音速，而不是高超音速。有一款布拉莫斯II，被提升到7-8马赫(高超音速区)，但正常版本的最大马赫数是3马赫，而且很确定它在低空水平飞行时不会达到3马赫。报告的3马赫是从高空释放时的俯冲速度。对于超音速的东西，许多防空系统都有很好的拦截成功率，包括最新的S300/400和几乎所有的中型或战区级西方系统。战斗机拥有相同的速度，在许多情况下拥有更大的机动性，但它们很容易受到所有这些系统的攻击。
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首先，它是超音速，而不是高超音速。有一款布拉莫斯II，被提升到7-8马赫(高超音速区)，但正常版本的最大马赫数是3马赫，而且很确定它在低空水平飞行时不会达到3马赫。报告的3马赫是从高空释放时的俯冲速度。对于超音速的东西，许多防空系统都有很好的拦截成功率，包括最新的S300/400和几乎所有的中型或战区级西方系统。战斗机拥有相同的速度，在许多情况下拥有更大的机动性，但它们很容易受到所有这些系统的攻击。
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It's also really really heavy for the payload and range. An Su-30 can only carry one and that is with undercarriage modifications.
对于其有效载荷和航程来说，它也非常非常重。一架苏-30只能携带一枚，而且需要对机腹进行改装。
对于其有效载荷和航程来说，它也非常非常重。一架苏-30只能携带一枚，而且需要对机腹进行改装。
kz8816
You gotta take a sackful of salt when listening to Indians boast about themselves. Their movies should be a clear indicator of this.
当你听印度人吹嘘自己的时候，你得带着怀疑。他们的电影应该是一个明确的指标。
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You gotta take a sackful of salt when listening to Indians boast about themselves. Their movies should be a clear indicator of this.
当你听印度人吹嘘自己的时候，你得带着怀疑。他们的电影应该是一个明确的指标。
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Nibb31
ICBMs have been around for decades. They are hypersonic, unstoppable, and deadly. And stealthy when launched from a submarine.
洲际弹道导弹已经存在了几十年。它们是高超音速的，不可阻挡的，致命的。而且从潜艇上发射时是隐身的。
ICBMs have been around for decades. They are hypersonic, unstoppable, and deadly. And stealthy when launched from a submarine.
洲际弹道导弹已经存在了几十年。它们是高超音速的，不可阻挡的，致命的。而且从潜艇上发射时是隐身的。
Hypersonic air-launched missiles offer no strategic advantage over existing ICBMs. Fire your Brahmos once, and your 10 major cities are toast 30 minutes later.
高超音速空射导弹与现有洲际弹道导弹相比没有战略优势。只要你发射一次布拉莫斯导弹，30分钟后你的10个大城市就会被夷为平地。
高超音速空射导弹与现有洲际弹道导弹相比没有战略优势。只要你发射一次布拉莫斯导弹，30分钟后你的10个大城市就会被夷为平地。
Ansrallah
Bear in mind American military strategy contrary to popular chatter is Not centered on Defense, but rather Revenge The administrators and decision makers, have hardware and well strategized retaliation worked out, they really don't care about the masses of the general population.
记住，美国的军事战略不是以防御为中心，而是以报复为中心。管理者和决策者有硬件和精心策划的报复，他们真的不关心普通民众。
Bear in mind American military strategy contrary to popular chatter is Not centered on Defense, but rather Revenge The administrators and decision makers, have hardware and well strategized retaliation worked out, they really don't care about the masses of the general population.
记住，美国的军事战略不是以防御为中心，而是以报复为中心。管理者和决策者有硬件和精心策划的报复，他们真的不关心普通民众。
So i that case unless india had 10,000 of them flawlessly functioning and 24/7 ready to launch simultaneously, and an omniscient awareness of americas entire military doings, it is no threat, or rather it is merely a threat and that is all.
所以在这种情况下，除非印度有1万枚完美运转、全天候准备同时发射的导弹，并且对美国的整个军事行动了如指掌，否则它就不是威胁，或者更确切地说，它只是一个威胁，仅此而已。
所以在这种情况下，除非印度有1万枚完美运转、全天候准备同时发射的导弹，并且对美国的整个军事行动了如指掌，否则它就不是威胁，或者更确切地说，它只是一个威胁，仅此而已。
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