讨论话题:没落的帝国
2023-12-15 遐怪 6295
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@perceivedreality7933
“Operation Iraqi freedom” was the angelic title for the brutal invasion of Iraq. “Operation unified protector” was the fancy name for the destruction of Libya.
“Operation enduring freedom” was the virtuous name given to the unjust invasion of Afghanistan. All in the name of democracy.

“伊拉克自由行动”是对伊拉克残酷入侵的天使般的称呼。“统一保护者行动”是摧毁利比亚的一个花哨的名字。
“持久自由行动”是给不公正的阿富汗入侵取的一个好听的名字。这一切都是以民主的名义。

@perceivedreality7933
nato is not a defensive alliance. They illegally bombed Yugoslavia (direct violation of the UN Charter). We must never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc.

北约不是一个防御联盟。他们非法轰炸南斯拉夫(直接违反联合国宪章)。我们绝不能忘记他们对利比亚、阿富汗、伊拉克、叙利亚等国的所作所为。

@yp77738yp77739
I know my son is so cynical about our military interventionism that he would never even start to consider a military career or even a role in the civil or security services in which he is ideally suited and qualified. That’s the problem when a state is acting as a malign actor, it looses all credibility with its citizens. I asked him what would he do if the country was under attack, would he be prepared to fight and die for the state, he stated he would leave before conscxtion started as only a fool would chose to die for something so corrupted.

我知道我儿子对我们的军事干涉主义是如此的看不惯,以至于他从未考虑过从军,甚至不会考虑在民政或安全部门担任他最适合和最合格的角色。这就是问题所在,当一个国家扮演恶意角色时,它会失去公民的所有信任。我问他,如果国家受到攻击,他会怎么做,他会准备为国家战斗和牺牲吗?他说他会在征兵开始前离开,因为只有傻瓜才会选择为如此腐败的东西而死。

@stanspb763
I will blame your guys for not getting an important project done today. That was the most riveting discussion on the current state and the views that lead us into the perils we are creating all over. I do not even live in the US anymore, living in a much more reasonable and pleasant society where people get a long, Russia. But reviewing the history we all were part of in the US during the last 40 years. It is obviously we had (have) some of the most evil people in public office in my native USA. No one has learned from history and the current evil is even worse than the prior evil. I do not see any conflict in the world that was not cooked up by Washington, with military and CIA undermining every country on earth. It would be hard to think of a conflict or coup in the world that the US was not behind. When we call it the Empire of Lies it REALLY IS. I can't think of a single time when Putin has lied to the people or anyone he is dealing with in foreign affairs. I can't think of a case with a US official DID NOT lie.

我要怪你们今天没有讨论完一个重要的课题。这是关于当前状态和观点的最引人入胜的讨论,这些观点将我们带入了我们正在制造的危险之中。我甚至不再住在美国,生活在一个更合理、更愉快的社会里。但是回顾过去40年里我们在美国所经历的历史。很明显,在我的祖国美国,我们有一些最邪恶的公职人员。没有人从历史中吸取教训,现在甚至比以前的更邪恶。我认为世界上没有任何冲突不是由华盛顿策划的,军方和中情局破坏地球上的每一个国家。
世界上几乎没有一场冲突或政变不是美国在背后操纵的。当我们称它为谎言帝国时,它确实是。我想不出普京在外交事务中对人民或任何人撒过谎。我想不出哪个美国官员没有撒谎。

@werimutamihana2156
My personal aha moment at last!!!! Thank you Colonel Sir I feel vindicated after all these years hating on the US foreign policies of attacking other countries. I'm an American patriot n I feel better now listening to u a former top government official that I'm not wrong about my feelings in this regard. Thanks

这么多年来我一直憎恨美国攻击其他国家的外交政策,我觉得自己是正确的。我是一名美国爱国者,现在听一位前政府高级官员说,我在这方面的感受没有错,我感觉好多了。谢谢

@whatgives1482
He says U.S. should focus on China as the biggest threat, then later says China doesn't want to be the world's hegemon. I've heard ad nauseum how China is the biggest threat, but no one ever explains why.

他说美国应该把中国视为最大的威胁,然后又说中国不想成为世界霸主。我听过很多关于中国是最大威胁的说法,但从来没有人解释过原因。

@dabrupro
I met a career army guy back in August (2023). He said that a couple of years ago he had worked in a recruiting office for a while. (I think around Boston.) He said that for about every 100 men (mostly) and women who walked in, only eight to ten, in terms of physical and mental fitness, were even qualified to join.

我今年8月遇到一个职业军人。他说,几年前他曾在一家招聘办公室工作过一段时间。(我想是在波士顿附近。)他说,大约每100个走进来的男性(大部分)和女性中,只有8到10个在身体和心理健康方面符合资格。

@kiyoshitakeda452
The Roman Empire began its decline during the Emperor Commodus AD 190. It would take 286 yrs. for it to finally fall. Hopefully not so long this time. Thank you Col. Wilkerson, Alexander and Glenn. Well done all.

罗马帝国在公元190年康莫德斯皇帝时期开始衰落。耗费了286年才真正衰落。直到它最终落下。希望这次不要太久。

@perceivedreality7933
The globalists wanted to make a fool out of Russia. But instead, the globalists ended up making fools of themselves. Let that be a lesson.

全球主义者想让俄罗斯出丑。但相反,全球主义者最终让自己出丑了。以此为教训吧。

@bobilaforce8252
It make my endlessly angry to hear all those US army officers to say how sorry they are ALWAYS AFTER the mass killings and war crimes, they were part of. They are probably hoping for forgiving.?
The US and NATO have conducted another of their illegal wars against my small country back in 1999. We shall never forget that and even less forgive!!!!!Their regrets do not bring millions and millions dead innocents back the US has massacred all over the planet!!!!!!

听到那些美国军官在大屠杀和战争罪行之后说他们是多么的抱歉,这让我感到无比愤怒。他们可能希望得到原谅。
1999年,美国和北约对我小小的祖国发动了另一场非法战争。我们永远不会忘记,更不会原谅!!!!!他们的遗憾并不能挽回美国在地球上屠杀的数百万无辜死者!!!!!!

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@boblennox9251
Profound and enlightening discussion. "The wheels of Karma grind slow but sure" - what they sow, surely shall they reap.

深刻而有启发性的讨论。“因果报应的车轮缓慢而坚定地磨砺着”——他们播种什么,就会收获什么。

@blablah538
12:35 I am extremely disappointed to hear Alexander excuse Colin Powell's actions in 2002/3 as "good faith." I was 23 and just entering an adult level of political and international awareness. It was absolutely clear to me in real time that Colin Powell's presentation to the UN was absolute fabricated bullshit. Any adult with any relation to intelligence, military or not, would have seen right through it. It was Colin Powell's job to be able to do the same in that role and he completely failed, leading to the displacement and death of millions. I'm sorry, but his nice guy persona is not a big enough ticket to bypass responsibility of being one of the driving factors toward one of the most damaging decisions in human history. Even before that point, it was clear to me watching from home that the Bush administration was grasping at any straw possible to invade Iraq. Don't tell me you seriously believe that it took 2 years for Lawrence Wilkerson and Colin Powell to see things clearly. They should all be tried and imprisoned as war criminals, folksy accents or not. For any of them that have died and are buried in a military cemetery, engrave "war criminal" on the tombstone

听到亚历山大为科林·鲍威尔2002-2003年的行为辩解为“善意”,我感到非常失望。我当时23岁,刚刚进入成人的政治和国际意识水平。我非常清楚,科林·鲍威尔在联合国的发言完全是捏造的胡扯。任何和情报部门有关系的成年人,不管是不是军人,都能看出来。
科林·鲍威尔的工作就是能够在这个角色上做同样的事情,但他完全失败了,导致数百万人流离失所和死亡。我很抱歉,但他的“好人”形象不足以让他逃避人类历史上最具破坏性决定的驱动因素之一的责任。甚至在那之前,我在家里就清楚地看到,布什政府正在抓住任何可能入侵伊拉克的机会。别告诉我你真的相信劳伦斯·威尔克森和科林·鲍威尔花了两年时间才看清事情。他们都应该被当作战犯来审判和监禁。对于那些已经死亡并被埋葬在军事墓地的人,应在墓碑上刻上“战犯”字样。

@ellenrichardson7819
I have lived almost 80 years and I have seen this inept empire unfold over my life time but Col. Wilkerson has filled in many blanks for me.
The problems with empires is they all fall

我活了将近80年,在我的一生中,我见证了这个无能的帝国的发展,但威尔克森上校为我填补了许多空白。
帝国的问题在于他们都会灭亡。

@ttystikkrocks1042
Every time I listen to Colonel Wilkerson I find myself nodding in agreement the entire time. I nod even harder when he talks about how stupid our Presidents and cabinet members have been in recent decades. We are headed off a cliff and I don't know if it's too late to avoid it.

每次我听威尔克森上校讲话时,我发现自己一直在点头表示同意。当他谈到近几十年来我们的总统和内阁成员是多么愚蠢时,我更赞同了。我们正走向悬崖,我不知道现在要避免是否为时太晚。
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@johannespaulfrank3441
Saying Ukraine is a democracy is like saying the USA is not corrupt.

说乌克兰是民主国家就像说美国没有腐败一样。

@AndrewLondoner
When I arrived in the UK in 2009, people were happy, it was easy to buy good food, and above all, it was safe.
How can a country be ruined so quickly...

当我2009年到达英国时,人们很开心,很容易买到好食物,最重要的是,很安全。
一个国家怎么能这么快就毁了…

@MarkHockridge-qd2fb
The empire is falling slowly, and the more it tries to expand, the quicker the downfall!

帝国正在慢慢衰落,它越想扩张,衰落就越快!
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@canadianroots7681
Great episode! As a teen, I recall the opening of Eastern Europe and the fall of the Berlin Wall. I remember the excitement and hope. To see where we are now is heartbreaking.

十几岁的时候,我还记得东欧的开放和柏林墙的倒塌。我记得那种兴奋和希望。看到我们现在的处境让人心碎。

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