人类真的登上过月球吗?
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Did man really land on the moon?

人类真的登上过月球吗?

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Jake Williams
Let me get this straight.
People say man didn't really land on the moon. They say that somehow, billions of dollars were sunk into a project whereby the worlds largest hoax occurred. Giant rockets that didn't actually go anywhere were launched multiple times in front of people, while hundreds of other people pretended to be mission control, astronauts, film crews, and everyone else shown. Every news industry on the planet was either in on it, or completely fooled. The USSR, who were spending billions spying on America, found no evidence of this hoax, and bought it. And, to top it off, in the 47 years since not a single person, out of the hundreds of people who must be in on it, have come forward despite the massive opportunity for fame and fortune. Oh, and the reflector is actually a naturally occurring phenomenon, not a clear example of human engineering.
I'm sorry, but that would actually be more impressive than landing on the moon.
Yes, we landed on the moon, not because it was easy, but because tricking everyone into thinking we did would be freaking impossible.

让我来梳理一下这个观点。
有人说人类并没有真正登上月球。他们声称,数十亿美元被投入到一个项目中,世界上最大的骗局就这样发生了。那些实际上并没有飞往任何地方的巨型火箭被多次在人们面前发射,同时还有许多其他人假装是任务控制中心、宇航员、电影工作人员以及在画面中出现的其他人。地球上的每一个新闻行业要么参与其中,要么完全被愚弄了。苏联,这个在花费数十亿进行对美国间谍活动的国家,没有发现这个骗局的任何证据,并且也相信了它。而且,最重要的是,在过去的47年里,尽管有巨大的名利机会,但那些必须参与其中的人,没有一个人站出来揭露真相。哦,还有,那个反射器实际上是自然现象,这可不是人类工程学的典型例子。
我很抱歉,但如果这是真的,那实际上比登陆月球还要令人印象深刻。
是的,我们确实登上了月球,并不是因为这很容易,而是因为让每个人都相信我们做到了这一点是极其不可能的。

Ernest W. Adams
Did the US really land on the Moon?
No, the big secret is that it was actually the Russians, but they used fake American spacecraft in a false flag operation. They sent English-speaking cosmonauts named Neil Armstrongski and Edwin Aldrinovich in order to fool the world into thinking the Americans did it. This was the most glorious disinformation project ever achieved by the KGB. Mikhail Collinsev was made a Hero of the Soviet unx for his support role.
It worked. Americans have been taking the blame for being the first to land on the moon for the last 40+ years. You and I are the only ones who have seen through their nefarious subterfuge.

美国真的登上月球了吗?
不,最大的秘密是,登上月球的实际上是俄罗斯人,但他们在假国旗行动中使用了假的美国航天器。他们派出了名为Neil Armstrongski和Edwin Aldrinovich且会说英语的宇航员,目的是欺骗世界,让世界认为是美国人干的。这是克格勃有史以来最辉煌的虚假信息项目。米哈伊尔·科林塞夫因为他的支持作用被封为苏联英雄。
它奏效了。在过去的40多年里,美国人一直认为自己是第一个登上月球的国家。你和我是唯一看穿他们邪恶诡计的人。

Charlie Platt
There was a great interview with Neil Armstrong where he was asked that question, I think in the early 2000s. He responded calmly, and said, he was proud to have been part of one of man’s greatest achievements, the Apollo moon landings. That he understood it was such an amazing achievement, that people might be skeptical and have questions about how it was done, is it possible, etc… Hell, they weren’t even sure it was possible when they started the program.
Then he paused, and thought for a moment, and said, but, oh to have been part of a program that involved hundreds of thousands of people, around the world, with countries like the Soviets trying to prove us a failure constantly, and to have pulled that off and kept it a secret for over 30 years now, then, wow, that would be even more amazing. So regardless of how you look at it, in the 1960s we did something that was truly remarkable.
I would add, what type of world would you want to live in? One where we did amazing and remarkable things, brave men and women risked their lives to reach the moon and space, where the limit of our abilities is equal to the limit of our imagination, or a world where everything is a hoax and a fake. A bit of skepticism is good, keeps people honest

在21世纪初,有一次对尼尔·阿姆斯特朗的精彩采访,他在采访中被问到了这个问题。他平静地回答说,他很自豪能参与人类最伟大的成就之一——阿波罗登月。他明白这是一个令人难以置信的成就,人们可能会对此持怀疑态度,质疑它是如何完成的,是否可能等等……实际上,当他们开始这个项目时,他们甚至不确定这是否可能。
然后他停顿了一下,思考了片刻,说,但是,哦,能够参与到这个涉及全球数十万人的项目中,并且能够完成这个项目并保守秘密超过30年,那将是更加了不起的——像苏联这样的国家不断试图证明我们的失败。所以不管你怎么看,在1960年代,我们做了一些真正了不起的事情。
我想补充一句,你想生活在什么样的世界里?在一个世界里,我们做了了不起的事情,勇敢的男男女女冒着生命危险到达月球和太空,在一个世界里,我们的能力极限等于我们的想象力极限,或者在一个世界里,一切都是骗局和假的?有点怀疑是好的,它让人们保持诚实。

Paddy Alton
Is it true that humankind visited the Moon?
It’s definitely true; the idea that the moon landings were faked is a well-known conspiracy theory, but is utterly without foundation.
There’s plenty of compelling evidence, e.g. during the Apollo missions the astronauts left behind some mirrors to bounce lasers off in order to measure the Earth-Moon distance more accurately (Lunar Laser Ranging experiment). And that’s even if you don’t believe the reams of footage that was taken. No, in order to believe that we didn’t land on the moon it is necessary to believe:
The USA was willing to build a whole load of extremely expensive rockets, send them to the moon, conduct a pantomime series of landings and manufacture fake footage, somehow also contriving to land the mirror arrays I mentioned on the moon while doing this. Note that we’ve since imaged the landing sites and seen the remnants of the landing (too grainy to really show much, but there’s definitely something there).
That they did this on multiple occasions, aided and abetted by the vast number of NASA employees and external contractors involved with the missions, and no-one let anything slip.
That they did this at the height of the cold war and somehow weren’t found out by e.g. the Russians.
That over the following decades, none of the people who’d have to have been in on it have cracked.
On the other side of the equation are a bunch of people who weren’t involved with the mission analysing the footage and mumbling something about the lighting not looking quite right, while steadfastly ignoring the perfectly reasonable explanations for their various points of contention (e.g. that lighting conditions on the moon are rather different from those on Earth).

人类是否真的登陆过月球?
这绝对是真的;认为登月是假的是一个众所周知的阴谋论,但它完全没有根据。
有很多有力的证据,例如在阿波罗任务期间,宇航员留下了一些反射激光的镜子,以便更准确地测量地月距离(月球激光测距实验)。即使你不相信拍摄的大量影像资料,这也是事实。不,要相信我们没有登陆月球,你必须相信:
美国愿意建造一大批极其昂贵的火箭,将它们发送到月球,进行一系列假的登陆表演并制造假影像,同时还设法在进行这些活动的同时在月球上放置我提到的镜子阵列。请注意,我们后来已经对登陆地点进行了成像,看到了登陆的残留物(图像太模糊,看不太清,但肯定有东西在那里)。
他们在多次任务中这样做,得到了大量参与任务的NASA员工和外部承包商的帮助和支持,而且没有人泄露任何信息。
他们在冷战高峰期这样做,不知何故没有被例如俄罗斯等国家发现。
在接下来的几十年里,所有那些必须参与其中的人都没有泄露秘密。
在这个问题的另一方面,有一群没有参与任务的人在分析影像,喃喃自语地说光线看起来不太对,同时坚定地忽略了他们各种争议点的完全合理的解释(例如,月球上的光照条件与地球上的相当不同)。

Jane-Maree Howard
A few months ago, while I was getting some blood tests, the lady performing the procedure happened to mention that her birthday fell on the anniversary of the first moon landing (21 July in New Zealand, 20 July in the US, depends on which side of the International Date Line you're on), & then mentioned that ‘theory’ that the moon landings were faked. I was pleased to be able to offer a brief rebuttal - & may I say how very pleased I am to see the many comprehensive replies to this old canard; I learnt a lot! My sister later pointed out to me that the lady probably got this ‘fake-moon-landing’ rubbish often, & that I'd probably made her day by giving her ammunition to refute it.

几个月前,当我去做血液检查时,执行检查的女士偶然提到她的生日恰好是第一次登月纪念日(新西兰是7月21日,美国是7月20日,这取决于你在国际日期变更线的哪一边),然后她提到了那个“理论”,即登月是假的。我很高兴能够提出一个简短的反驳——我可以说,看到针对这一古老谣言的许多全面的答复;我感到非常高兴;我学到了很多!后来,我姐姐向我指出,那位女士可能经常听到这种“假登月”的胡说八道,我给她提供了反驳的论据,可能让她的一天变得更好了。

There are far better answers here than mine.
At the time, the Cold War between the Russians & the US was in full spate. Every propaganda point counted, including (& especially!) the Space Race; when President Kennedy announced in a speech (1962*) that the US was going to put a man on the Moon & bring him safely back to Earth ‘before this decade is out’, the Russians were well ahead on points (Sputnik, dog Laika, male cosmonaut Gagarin, & later* female cosmonaut Tereshkova, all in Earth orbit), so the US needed a knock-out blow & the first moon landing was it (the announcement caught NASA by surprise, though they must've known that something pretty big would have to be on the agenda). Not too long after JFK’s announcement, the Russians sent an unmanned probe to orbit the moon & transmit photos back to Earth (& they repeated the procedure some time after the first (& subsequent) landing(s). Now, the die was cast! The US had no choice but to go for broke & do what JFK said they would do.

这里有的答案比我提供的答案更好。
当时,俄罗斯和美国之间的正处于冷战高潮期。每一个宣传点都很重要,包括(尤其是)太空竞赛;当肯尼迪总统在一次演讲中宣布(1962年),美国打算“在这个十年结束之前”把一个人送上月球并把他安全带回地球,而当时俄罗斯在系列成就上遥遥领先(斯普特尼克、狗莱卡、男性宇航员加加林,后来的女性宇航员捷列什科娃,都在地球轨道上),所以美国需要发出致命一击,第一次登月就是这样(这一声明让美国宇航局感到意外,尽管他们一定知道会有相当大的事情出现在议程上)。肯尼迪总统宣布登月后不久,俄罗斯人就发射了一个无人探测器绕月飞行,并将照片传回地球(他们在第一次(及随后的)着陆后一段时间重复了这一过程)。现在,木已成舟!美国别无选择,只能孤注一掷,按照肯尼迪所说的去做。

Jon Mixon
Did man really go to moon?
Why can't it be ruled out?
Tens of thousands of people worked on various aspects the Apollo programs - Are they all lying?
Twelve men walked on the moon,brought back lunar samples and took pictures - Are they all lying?
Hundreds of professional and amateur astronomers observed the mission - Were they all deceived or are they lying?
There are reflectors upon the moon which can viewed with telescopes - How did they get there?
The Soviet unx, the United State's mortal enemy at the time, never disputed that the US missions to the moon were anything other than genuine. Given the massive public relations boost that they would have received if even one mission had been fraudulent, why would they have kept anything secret for decades if they knew that it was untrue?
Sorry, but the evidence of the Apollo missions having successfully launched men into space, sent them to the moon and brought them back is so overwhelming that it shifts the burden of proof onto the side of anyone who claims that they did not occur.

人类真的去过月球吗?
为什么不能排除这种可能性?
成千上万的人参与了阿波罗计划的各个方面——他们都在撒谎吗?
十二名宇航员在月球上行走,带回了月球样本并拍摄了照片——他们也都在撒谎吗?
数百名专业和业余天文学家观察了这次任务——他们都被欺骗了,还是在撒谎?
月球上有可以通过望远镜观察到的反射器——它们是如何到达那里的?
苏联,当时美国的死敌,从来没有质疑过美国的登月计划是假的。考虑到即使有一个任务是欺诈性的,他们也会获得巨大的公共关系提升,如果他们知道这是不真实的,他们为什么要保守秘密几十年呢?
抱歉,阿波罗任务成功地将人类送入太空、送到月球并带回地球的证据是如此确凿,以至于它将举证责任转移到了声称这些事件没有发生过的人身上。

Stephen Perrenod
More than once. Six times in fact.
The kooks, nuts, idiots who say that the Apollo 11 landing was faked generally forget to make up a crazy, insane story about Apollo 12, Apollo 14, Apollo 15, Apollo 16, and Apollo 17. Apollo 13 was unable to land.
Twelve American men walked on the Moon’s surface.

不止一次,事实上是六次。
那些说阿波罗11号着陆是伪造的怪人、疯子和白痴通常忘了编一个关于阿波罗12号、阿波罗14号、阿波罗15号、阿波罗16号、阿波罗17号和阿波罗13号无法着陆的愚蠢而荒唐的故事。

Erwin Molnar
Did Neil Armstrong really land on the moon?
I participated in the testing of the Lunar Module propulsion systems and their components in Houston, White Sands, and Bethpage, Long Island. I was also present in the Lunar Module control room in Bethpage during Armstrong’s landing. No amount of self-deception can make me believe that all this took place in a Hollywood studio or that my paychecks were issued by a movie production company.
Every day there are fewer and fewer of us left who actually worked on the Apollo program. However, in a few years this entire discussion will be not only academic, but will be seen as an absurdity. In a few years, when we have permanently colonized the moon, the descent stage of the Apollo 11 Lunar module (designated as LEM-5 during fabrication and test) as well as the surrounding area with the astronauts’ footprints will be protected and designated as a UNESCO World Heritage Site (perhaps Interplanetary Heritage Site?).

尼尔·阿姆斯特朗真的登上月球了吗?
我参加了在休斯敦,白沙,和贝斯佩奇,长岛进行的有关登月舱推进系统及其部件的测试的工作。阿姆斯特朗着陆时,我也在贝斯佩奇登月舱控制室工作。再多的自欺欺人也不能让我相信这一切都发生在好莱坞的工作室里,或者我的薪水是由电影制作公司发的。
真正参与阿波罗计划的人正变得越来越少。然而,几年后,这整个讨论将不仅是学术性的,而且将被视为荒谬的。几年后,当我们永久地在月球上建立殖民地时,阿波罗11号登月舱的下降阶段(在制造和测试期间被指定为LEM-5)以及周围有宇航员脚印的区域将成为联合国教科文组织世界遗产地(也许甚至是星际遗产地?)。

Geoffrey Widdison
Did Neil Armstrong really land on the moon?
Note that the astronauts also left a corner reflector on the moon. Anyone with the right equipment can bounce a laser off that reflector and pick up the reflection. If the moon landing was a hoax, it would have to include everyone on earth with access to a decently powered laser and detection rig over the past forty years.

尼尔·阿姆斯特朗真的登上了月球吗?
请注意,宇航员还在月球上留下了一个角行反射器。只要有合适的设备,任何人都可以将激光从反射器上反射回来,并接收到反射。如果登月是一场骗局,那么在过去的四十年里,地球上所有能接触到大功率激光器和探测设备的人都必须参与其中。

Katie Anne Holton
Just a few Americans landed there.
The rest of the country stayed home and watched it on TV.

只有少数美国人在那里登陆。
全国其他地方的人都呆在家里,在电视上观看它。

Austin Willard Bryan
You can Google real footage from the moon landings where they dropped a hammer and a feather at the same time. Now, on Earth, they hammer falls faster than the feather, despite the gravitational constant supposedly being constant for all obxts, but that actually has to do with our atmosphere, which the moon has not.
Because of that, this was the first time anyone was able to test, and eventually prove, that gravity pulls on all obxts equally.
Check it out, it’s totally bizarre. The hammer and feather fall at the exact same rate!
CG wasn’t around back then and wouldn’t be for more than half a decade. Mythbusters also did a special about the moon as well you might want to check out.

你可以在谷歌上搜索登月的真实画面,他们同时扔下了一把锤子和一根羽毛。在地球上,锤子比羽毛下落得更快,尽管引力常数理论上对所有物体都是恒定的,但这实际上与我们的大气层有关,而月球上是没有大气层的。
正因为如此,这是第一次有人能够测试并最终证明,引力对所有物体的作用是均等的。
去看看吧,这非常奇怪。锤子和羽毛以完全相同的速度下落!
那时候还没有计算机生成图像(CG),而且该技术还要过半年多才会出现。《神话破解者》也做了一期关于月球的特别节目,你可能也想去看看。

John Chapman
Did the US really land on the Moon?
Absolutely not. The US has never moved from it’s position between Canada and Mexico, between the Atlantic and Pacific.
Some astronauts from the US did land on the moon though. Some people appear to believe this was all a gigantic hoax but obviously choose to ignore the fact that thousands would have had to be involved in this ‘hoax’, that worldwide radio telescopes tracked them to the moon (including some in Russia). That equipment was left there which can still be detected today.

美国真的登上月球了吗?
绝对没有。美国从未离开过它位于加拿大和墨西哥之间、大西洋和太平洋之间的地理位置。
不过,美国的一些宇航员确实登上了月球。有些人似乎相信这一切都是一场巨大的骗局,但显然他们选择忽视了一个事实:成千上万的人必须参与这个所谓的‘骗局’,全球的射电望远镜(包括俄罗斯的一些望远镜)都追踪到了他们到达月球的轨迹。而且这些设备被留在那里,至今仍能被探测到。

Dhulipala Somayajulu
Surely yes. It would've been easier and cheaper at that time to actually go to moon and take a video than faking a video. The latter would've required technology far beyond the reach at the time the first person set foot on moon. Slow motion cameras required to simulate conditions equivalent 1/6 th of earth's gravity would've required really really long tapes to catch all the detail at such high fps. The processing technology would've costed much more than the technology required to simply shoot it at moon at that time.

当然登上了,在当时,真的去月球拍摄视频会比伪造视频更容易、更便宜。后者所需要的技术远远超出了第一个人登上月球时所能接触到的技术。为了模拟相当于地球重力六分之一的条件,需要使用慢动作摄影机,这将需要非常非常长的磁带才能捕捉到如此高帧率下的所有细节。在当时,这种处理技术的成本要比简单地送人上月球所需的技术要高得多。

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